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[edit]Thanks for the tip! I have a tip for you. Check who made that last edit - it wasn't me! It was somebody by the name of Rpgguru. I understand how you might be confused on this issue but there should be no confusion at all. Good reviews on Amazon posted up by people that worked on the game is a conflict of interests and deceptive. Not filling all of their kickstarter rewards is fraudulent. Do you realize that they raised 22 times the money they were asking for? Is it okay and acceptable that they have not filled all of their back rewards? Is it cool that they do not even list the names of all of their backers on their own website? You think you've outsmarted someone just because you have deleted an edit they made? Hardly. The word is still going to get out! There is a blog or two I know of that's going to post up those issues. There are also the Google+ communities for Tephra, Steampunk, Tabletop Gaming, and Kickstarter (just to name a few) where this information can be posted. I'm not mad because I bought the game because I was not one of the suckers that got tricked. I am mad that people are falling for the Cracked Monocle shenanigans and wasting their money on a product that is sub-par information wise and a company that will turn their backs on them when they get money in hand?
- PLEASE read WP:GF - I am assuming you are trying to be constructive, please grant the same benefit of the doubt, as well. I know RPG Guru made the edit. I've been talking to him, as well; there was no confusion. Both you and he added similar thing. You seem to be bringing in a lot of outside info that isn't relevant to the article. My main concern is that Wikipedia has strict rules for what can be posted and what can't. If you have a reliable news source, that's one thing. If you look at the article, you'll find I already summarized the Kickstarter thing based on what conforms to what we can include. Please discuss on the talk page instead of continually posting the same thing. BloodmoonIvy (talk) 20:01, 22 March 2014 (UTC)
It's kind of strange that you erased everything instead of just the RPGGeek stuff. BTW, most of that stuff is covered elsewhere. I know you might *think* you are being impartial but you are NOT. All one has to do is read the comments on Kickstarter and on their own forums and Cracked Monocle to know there has been problem after problem. You say the information is not relevant to the article but it is. How about someone looking for a new game to play? With the rising costs of paper products customers need to be informed about fraudulent or controversial practices. I would definitely say that Cracked Monocle fits the bill on those counts. What is wrong with the potential customer base being informed before they make a decision? I am not trying to be a jerk but something simple like posting the names of the backers on their website should have been the first reward fulfilled. That is EASY stuff! How can they attend convention after convention with a large entourage and still make claims of being short on cash for filling rewards? They earned over TWENTY TWO times MORE than their goal. At this point, the whole mess has left the realm of all things normal and decent and went straight to the strange and utterly ridiculous! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Keeperofthesevenkeys (talk • contribs) 20:15, 22 March 2014 (UTC)
- At this point I am moving the issue to Dispute Resolution. I have advised you to use the page's talk page for this, but you seem to insist on including edits that do not meet Wikipedia's standard for inclusion, despite my attempts to seek a compromise on the matter. BloodmoonIvy (talk) 20:18, 22 March 2014 (UTC)
All I want to know is how stating factual truths in the form of concerns expressed by unhappy customers is inflammatory? People should be aware of what is going on. I admit that I got a little heated in my response. Yes, I did say I would post it on blogs and Google+ communities. Was I serious? No, I was trying to show you that this escapade is ridiculous. I should have talked instead of resorting to sarcasm. You claimed that you wanted to use talk to clear it up but you insisted on editing out what I put in without discussion. How is showing the truth to other people not being objective?Keeperofthesevenkeys (talk) 20:52, 22 March 2014 (UTC)
- I invited you to discuss this on the talk page of the article. Instead of posting feedback on the compromise edit, you just put the same thing back in multiple times after being asked politely to stop. That means I have to stop asking quite so nicely and use Wikipedia policy to get the article stable. BloodmoonIvy (talk) 20:55, 22 March 2014 (UTC)
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