User talk:Bkeene12

Managing a conflict of interest

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Hi Longhair- Thank you for your feedback. It is greatly appreciated, this is my first foray into Wikipedia. As you suggested, I added the "connected contributor" tag to the edit summary. Let me know if this will suffice or if there are other steps to take. I attempted to keep the information in the article unbiased and referenced it all to a source at IMDB.COM

It was advised by others in the entertainment industry to build a very bare bones article with absolutely no commentary and never edited it again.

My hope is, the article can get approved and others will contribute organically as my daughter's acting career progresses. She booked an important role in a well established HBO show/movie called Deadwood. We are fighting a losing battle with media's request for information. That said, it is my intention that Wikipedia serves as a repository for information about her once the filming is complete.

--Bkeene12 (talk) 19:51, 12 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Your submission at Articles for creation: Lily Keene (November 13)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reasons left by Gene93k were:

This submission is not adequately supported by reliable sources. Reliable sources are required so that information can be verified. If you need help with referencing, please see Referencing for beginners and Citing sources.

This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of people). Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

The comment the reviewer left was:

IMDb is not a reliable source for biographies. Subject does not appear to satisfy the WP:NACTOR guideline.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.

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• Gene93k (talk) 02:24, 13 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Bkeene12! Having an article declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! • Gene93k (talk) 02:24, 13 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

== Hello Gene93k- Thank you for your feedback. I have the "chicken and the egg problem". When the Deadwood movie premieres in the spring of 2019, she will receive a cavalcade of press because she replaced an established character from the original TV Series. Right now, we have some media outlets fishing for information but no way to validate the details. I was hoping the article would be in place so the references to the verifiable details would be logged in wikipedia. Do you know the minimum standards to establish an actor article on Wikipedia? The information I found was very open-ended with no specific numbers. Again, thank you for the review. Bkeene12 (talk) 01:30, 14 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia is based on what the reputable press has already published. Notability for inclusion in Wikipedia can't be speculated. The first route to notability is non-trivial coverage by multiple reliable published sources. She's not there yet. The second possible route from the guideline: Has had significant roles in multiple notable films, television shows, stage performances, or other productions. Reliable sources should verify it. Finally, a biography of a living person sourced only to IMDb would be taken down if it were ever published. My advice is to wait for Lily Keene's career to advance and for media coverage to come in. At that time, please let someone else write the Wikipedia article about her. • Gene93k (talk) 03:22, 14 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

== Gene93k- I get the gist of what you are saying and it makes sense; basically, "Be patient". There are a few articles in the works and one layout/interview in a clothing online magazine. After those are published should I seek someone out via the Teahouse? Bkeene12 (talk) 03:16, 16 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]