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The Wikipedia Signpost: 30 November 2009

Forum for the Future entry

Hi - I've updated the discussion board re editing this section : http://en.wiki.x.io/wiki/Talk:Forum_for_the_Future

Liz Evers (talk) 11:11, 9 December 2009 (UTC)

User compare tool

Hi Betacommand, I saw you activated a key? for this tool to Chilllum , could I have and use this tool? Off2riorob (talk) 22:28, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

I doubt it, I'd say it at least requires one to be an admin first to be trusted with that kind of tool so it wouldn't be misused. --Matt57 (talk•contribs) 22:32, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
Not really, just proof that you have some common sense and wont use it maliciously in an attempt to crash the toolserver. The only requests I have is try to limit compares where users have over 100,000 edits, dont compare bots, and dont give your key out. If you can follow those rules email me what you want your key to be and Ill add it. Abuse of the tool will mean access is revoked. its pretty simple and just needs some common sense. ☻ :) βcommand 22:37, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
Done. Off2riorob (talk) 22:45, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
Thanks beta. Off2riorob (talk) 22:53, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
Cool, I would like the tool then. I'll email you. thanks! --Matt57 (talk•contribs) 23:01, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
Thanks! I was curious to see what it did. If there was an example output webpage, it might lessen the number of people asking for it (incase there's a lot). --Matt57 (talk•contribs) 23:46, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
there is see tools:~betacommand/UserCompare/ βcommand 23:48, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
Cool thanks. --Matt57 (talk•contribs) 23:51, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

IP blocks for other projects

I really like your IP-blocks reports tools announced on ANI yestereday. Is it possible to extend them to other Wikimedia projects? I'm sure a lot of users (including me) would appreciate that. — AlexSm 17:07, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

its possible, I just need to figure out how to get it to work. /me goes to research HTML drop down boxes and forms. βcommand 20:08, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
Please see http://toolserver.org/~betacommand/cgi-bin/ipblock2 βcommand 16:55, 7 December 2009 (UTC)

Re: Block logs for a CIDR range

Your tool provides exactly the functionality that I was looking for. Thanks so much! —Zach425 talk/contribs 17:49, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

Your AfD statistics tool

Hi, there is a bug with your AfD counting tool that you might be interested in fixing. If given a vote like "Keep per User:X. User:Y", it counts it as a "keep" by X, not by Y. See e.g. Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Glover's Medicated Salt Cake, http://toolserver.org/~betacommand/cgi-bin/afdparser?afd=Wikipedia%3AArticles+for+deletion%2FGlover%27s+Medicated+Salt+Cake. Also, it might be convenient to have a hyperlink back to the AfD from the statistics page, for those that might be linked to the statistics page from outside. Thanks!  Sandstein  06:09, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

Ive done some changes let me know what you think. βcommand 15:27, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
Looks good now, thanks!  Sandstein  20:01, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

The Wikipedia Signpost: 7 December 2009

Policy Report

The community gave feedback on a couple of policy pages at WT:SOCK#Interview for Signpost and WT:CIVILITY#Policy Report for Signpost, and there will be another one in Monday's Signpost that we're putting together at WT:Username policy#Signpost Policy Report. I'm asking for your participation because you made an edit this month or last month at that talk page. If you have questions, feel free to ask at WT:Username policy#Signpost Policy Report or my talk page. The best guide to what the community is expecting from the surveys is to follow the links above to see what they've already done; we haven't had any complaints. Thanks for your time. - Dank (push to talk) 17:02, 10 December 2009 (UTC)

IP blocks for other projects (2)

previous discussion

I tried tools:~betacommand/cgi-bin/ipblock2 for some IPs in ru.wp but the tool only returns some of the active blocks. I couldn't find an exact patterm, but all the blocks returned were several months old and made by admins with "simple" names (only latin letters and no spaces). — AlexSm 19:25, 10 December 2009 (UTC)

If you could give me some more information about the blocks you where searching Ill take a closer look, but without more information I cannot try and diagnose the cause of the problem. βcommand 00:21, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
Today it started to work properly. Thank you. With a simple userscript I'm now using this tool within a frame on the special:contributions page. — AlexSm 19:05, 11 December 2009 (UTC)

Request Removed

Never mind. I see after further looking that my request should be removed at this time. Jusdafax 00:52, 12 December 2009 (UTC)

User compare

About your handy feature, how come I frequently get blank result page (as in entire webpage is white). I guess the connection got timed out because there're too many pages to analyze, no? There wasn't any problem using this until the "required" checkbox was introduced. What's the difference between checking it or leaving it unchecked? And how do I prevent from getting blank pages in the future? Finally (hope that this isn't too many questions in a row), I forgot how to do multiple socks check. Separate each name by a comma without space in between?

Thanks! OhanaUnitedTalk page 00:46, 10 December 2009 (UTC)

Actually that button was added for a feature that was never implemented, and does nothing. Ive been meaning to take a closer look at the compare code (its due for review/rewrite). If I could get an example of a compare thats not working that would help. As for multiple socks just use | to separate them. βcommand 00:24, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
I'm looking at this request, which I want to investigate if there's relationship between User:Mac (already blocked indef for socking) and User:Nopetro. OhanaUnitedTalk page 19:26, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
The only thing that I can think of is a blend of number of edits and size of the results page (1.7Mb in this case) is causing a timeout issue. But all open SPI cases are automatically created and stored in tools:~betacommand/UserCompare/ and are updated every six hours. βcommand 03:46, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
I had a couple of the dreaded white screens but I found if you just go back to it in a bit that it is fine, similar to the way some other tools stop responding when wiki servers are bit busy. Off2riorob (talk) 15:37, 13 December 2009 (UTC)

Dumb question

Hello Betacommand. I have a dumb question that you may be able to answer. Do you know if we have a count anywhere of how many non-free files there are on Wikipedia? Doesn't have to be as of right now. Many thanks in advance, Angus McLellan (Talk) 15:15, 13 December 2009 (UTC)

tools:~betacommand/reports/nfcc_count.log updated daily. βcommand 15:21, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
Magic! Again, many thanks for that. All the best, Angus McLellan (Talk) 15:44, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
I'll be asking for egg in my beer next, but would you have this going back over a longer period? What I was thinking of doing was plotting non-free content against article count to see whether we really are making progress on a free-as-in-speech encyclopedia or (as I suspect is the case) the free-as-in-beer crowd are winning. Angus McLellan (Talk) 15:52, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
I know from past experience that there where about 400,000 images before I started my massive tag runs. When I finished there was just under 300k images. and its growing since then. βcommand 15:55, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
That sounds right to me. There was a big cull in 2006-7, and no doubt there will be more since then as people pick away at the edges of the EDP to justify adding ever-more non-free stuff. I'll start from now. Angus McLellan (Talk) 16:19, 13 December 2009 (UTC)

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Extracting all of one editor's edits to a page

Hi Betacommand. I thought about asking at VPT, then I thought about asking at the Help Desk, and then I thought about asking at AN...then I realized that you've probably already written the tool I'm looking for, so I should just go straight to the source.

I'm wondering if a tool exists which would allow me to harvest a list of diffs which represent all of the edits made by a particular editor to a specific page. (Suppose, for example, that I wanted to pull out all of the edits that I made to AN; I'd just drop in TenOfAllTrades and Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard and out would come a list of links to diffs.) Have you seen (or written) something which will do that? Or should I kick this over to another page? Cheers! TenOfAllTrades(talk) 04:31, 16 December 2009 (UTC)

that already exists within mediawiki so no point in re-creating a wheel. see prop=revisions of the API http://en.wiki.x.io/w/api.php. βcommand 00:14, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
Great, thanks! /me goes off to read docs.... TenOfAllTrades(talk) 01:43, 17 December 2009 (UTC)

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