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		For your work on George H. Steuart (Brigadier General)‎. You should nominate it for a Good article! Omarcheeseboro (talk) 17:13, 26 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

About George H. Steuart (brigadier general)

You're doing good work on improving the page. The intro is much better. I had a suggestion: if what we can learn about the subject is limited to his warlike activity, then perhaps the legacy section should contain quotes or generalizations from authorities specifying what kind of warrior Steuart was. Was he known for his battlefield heroics, his good common sense in troop handling, his ability to inspire courage and determination in his men? think of the end section less as a chronological section, but more of a "why do we remember him?" section. Are schools named after him, was a ship named for him, are towns or geographical features named for him? Is there a statue somewhere? How did the lives of his offspring turn out? Most importantly, did he write or edit anything about his wartime experiences? I'll bet he did. All of these things one would expect to find in the ending section of a biography. Good luck in your work. Already the page is much improved. If I can help, I'm willing to lend advice on sources or how to search. I'm seeing a few other things which will need work, but you're doing fine. BusterD (talk) 12:46, 7 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I should add an apology for my inexpert use of the GA checklist template. If you see the green +, that's a pass on that section or subsection. If you see the pink clock, that indicates a hold on that section, more work to do. Feel free to communicate with me (in this thread) if I can be helpful. BusterD (talk) 12:53, 7 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding the family interest, sorry for raising the issue; that was impolite on my part and I didn't assume good faith. It's to your credit that you are willing to admit such a small conflict. The conflict of interest rules say one should avoid or edit very carefully any subject with which you have a COI. One of my best wiki-friends says that every one of us is violating some COI issue, some more than others. So writing about a distant relative, that's a very tiny violation compared to, say, writing an autobiography (which I see regularly).

About sources: I tried a simple google books search for "George Hume Steuart" and found 133 books, 32 of which were available to see in limited view or full view. And that's just books. I usually start a new article by making a list of the best links found during a books search, and build the entire page out of what I find in those sources. I'll take a crack at formatting the 48th PA link so you can see where I'm going. Again, good work, you've got several days to make small changes, and I'll try to help when I can. This is my first review; I can't just pass the page because I like the subject myself. That said, I'd like my first one to be a "pass" (if possible) and you've got lots of good thinking in this work. BusterD (talk) 22:49, 7 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hi BusterD and thanks v much for the assistance. I have made a bunch of fixes and also reformatted the notes and refs (not my strongest point I'm afraid). Perhaps you cd take a look? Not sure how much time I have but prob not too much. I have been trying to think of a decent summary at the end but haven't come up with anything good yet. Will keep thinking on it. Asteuartw (talk) 14:39, 8 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

by the way, re the ref at ^[1], the webpage says that it is referencing the following book: SIDELIGHTS AND LIGHTER SIDES OF THE WAR BETWEEN THE STATES: A Feast of History in Small Bites Cooked Up by Ralph Green. However, I have this book and in fact the only part that the webpage references is the following passage: General George “Maryland” Steuart was a tough and nasty martinet. He soon showed his power to the militarily ignorant Confederates in his command. It was not uncommon in his camp to see two or three men tied up by their thumbs to a cross pole. His favorite trick was to sneak up on sentries and try to catch them unaware. One night his trick backfired. He startled a private who grabbed hold of the little officer and pummeled him mercilessly, after which he pretended not to have recognized the general. I have used the story in the article, but referenced it directly to the book, not to the webpage. I left out the "nasty martinet" bit as it seemed a bit ad hominem. The rest of the information on Steuart in the webpage comes from other sources which are not identified. Asteuartw (talk) 16:50, 8 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The one thing jumping off the page for correction is the abbreviations. The MoS is pretty forgiving in terms of format, but consistency is crucial. I'd like you to start at the top of the page, and format each page number consistently (I prefer pp. and p.). I don't see any reason why we should abbreviate the word born. Military rank abbreviations are inconsistent too (the caption in the last image box, for example). If these abbreviations are cleaned up, I'm seeing few obstacles to passing this article at GA. Nice work during this review. The article is miles ahead of where you started. BusterD (talk) 11:46, 11 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks so much for all your notes and input. It has been very helpful for making this and future articles better and more consistent. Much appreciated. Asteuartw (talk) 13:27, 11 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

No good article's ever finished, so I suspect there's more work to find, but I believe you've passed the threshold for GA. Congratulations on your excellent work so far. I'd recommend you try some edits outside of your normal watchlist. It's been great pleasure watching this page become GA (watching you do most of the work); your responsiveness has made it easy to offer you honest critique. I have some issues with the reference style you've chosen; I heartily endorse the use of citation templates for best precision. BusterD (talk) 12:56, 12 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, it's been a pleasure. I will take a look at the citation templates as you suggest. I aim to improve all of my articles based on these notes.Asteuartw (talk) 14:58, 12 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Lots of great stuff in George H. Steuart (militia general)

Have you considered joining Wikipedia:WikiProject Biography, Wikipedia:WikiProject Maryland, or Wikipedia:WikiProject Military History? I'm sure there are subjects in those projects which would interest you and deserve your attention once you've completed your budding set of Steuart pages... All the best and love your work! BusterD (talk) 23:00, 16 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the kind words. Wd def like to join Wikipedia:WikiProject Maryland as you suggest...not entirely sure how one goes about it. Any pointers? Asteuartw (talk) 11:58, 18 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, got it...I see now...Ignore my last post Asteuartw (talk) 12:37, 18 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

re: Colonial families of Maryland

Hey, no problem! I didn't know that either. Anyway thank you for it! I wish I could give you one for Henry Darnall.

I've lived in Maryland and am fascinated by its sophisticated Colonial culture. I have an English ancestor who came to Baltimore in the 1840s-50s towards the end of Maryland's manorial days. DinDraithou (talk) 20:34, 23 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Adding barnstars

The line you referred to is about adding new kind of barnstars to the page Wikipedia:Barnstars, for adding barnstars to userpages the rule is still don't be shy! Best regards, Finn Rindahl (talk) 21:43, 23 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Merton College Chapel

Good stuff. Have you thought about working on an article about all the buildings of Merton, like Buildings of Jesus College, Oxford? Could be interesting, what with Mob Quad, the chapel and other aspects to discuss. Let me know if you are - I have some book sources that may be useful. Regards, Bencherlite ^Talk 10:31, 24 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the kind words, and the excellent suggestion, which is definitely worth considering. I tried to buy Roger Highfield's History of Merton on Amazon but used copies start at £171. What sources/books do you have available? Asteuartw (talk) 17:31, 24 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Most of them are here with me at work, but I have to leave shortly so I can't give you a full list. They include the Pevsner volume on Oxfordshire in the Buildings of England series, the Royal Commission on Historical Monuments report on Oxford, and Tyack's book "Oxford: an architectural guide", although I don't think I've got anything solely on Merton. Many of them are listed in the references section of the Jesus College article and Buildings of Nuffield College, Oxford. Bencherlite ^Talk 17:41, 24 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Charles Calvert, 3rd Baron Baltimore

Hello. In January you added a citation to a book from the "Webster's Quotations" series published by Icon Group International to this article. Unfortunately, Icon Group International is not a reliable source - their books are computer-generated, with most of the text copied from Wikipedia (most entries have [WP] by them to indicate this, see e.g. [1]). I've only removed the reference, not the text it was referencing, i.e. that Charles County, Maryland was named after him. I'm removing a lot of similar references as they are circular references; many other editors have also been duped by these sources. Another publisher to be wary of as they reuse Wikipedia articles is Alphascript Publishing. Fences&Windows 01:11, 24 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Barnstar

Thank you so much for the barnstar! I feel so honoured. :-) It's great to see that the work I've spent on the article has not been ignored.--LaukkuTheGreit (Talk•Contribs) 10:12, 21 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

it's rather a good article, surprisingly accurate given the contentious history of the subject matter. Perhaps you should nominate it for good article status? Asteuartw (talk) 19:25, 22 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

citations

On the Rev. James Maury/James Maury_(Counsul) article, it is asked that citations are needed. My Point Of View is that they already exist. I ask, specifically, what do you want to be cited? I personally would have made that area into two articles but I didn't create all of that article. However, I did start as far back as 2006 and during those 4 years I no longer recall the materials I had at hand during that time and therefore cannot cite some material. However, there are two books listed as references as well as there are citations within the article(s). I would like to know what it is that needs to be cited and especially since I read the "Mary Washington" article that looks terrible to me including the "suppositions" included in that small article which is half iof the article. If you are asking for the genealogy source that shows on Rev. James Maury, I would state that it is in many places on internet but I have it in a family book that is listed as a source on that article, "The Maury Family Tree" by Sue C. West. If you want to know about what Thomas Jefferson stated about the Rev. James Maury then that can be found in Thomas Jefferson's autobiography. Just please tell me exactly what you are looking at to cause you to state that a citation is needed. Again, I contributed as far back as 2006 but I believe that I can still cite what I covered in the article. Others have also contributed and they too have included citations in the article. Too, please do look at the Mary Washinghton article so that it too can be bettered. I am in no way offended with what your point of view is and I do applaud you for your work as I do others. We build together. William Maury Morris II 22:15, 21 November 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by William Maury Morris II (talk • contribs) William Maury Morris II (talk) 06:57, 22 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The idea is to back up every statement of fact with a citation. For example, the statement "Among his famous pupils were Thomas Jefferson and James Madison, the First Bishop of Virginia". This needs a citation. Who made this claim, and what was the source? Equally, the claim that "The boarding school in which Maury taught was considered the best known school in Albemarle county, Virginia." needs a citation. Every statement of fact should have a reference. Check out this page Wikipedia:Citing sources for more details. Hope this helps. Asteuartw (talk) 07:17, 22 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for the polite reply. I have reworked the article with inline citations and internal links as well as external links. Thomas Jefferson in his autobiography makes his own statement about the Rev James Maury and that is listed as a external source link but I did not list that. I have Thomas Jefferson's Autobiography on Wikisource and have mentioned that one. I did not write about any "Bishop" and I know nothing about that editor's sources at this point nor who he refers to. I have never heard of it and I tend to doubt it. The Classical school for boys is Virginia history but then I am a Virginian and am very aware of it. I placed a link to a history highway marker (an image with the info) plus posted that text which covers Jefferson being a pupil and Matthew Fontaine Maury being the Rev James Maury's grandson. I hope this covers what was needed. William Maury Morris II (talk) 08:46, 22 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Why cannot I get my account back?

Asteuartw, I had the account of William Maury Morris and contributed a lot under that account. At some point I took a break for other work and forget my password. My account was then lost and I posted for help but got none. With that account I did not leave an e-mail which is optional but with this one, William Maury Morris II, I have. I like to see my contributions showing on my account and this I am using now has very few because this is fairly new. Please e-mail me whatever is needed to get back my William Maury Morris account the e-mail I have listed on this account and after I have that back this account William Maury Morris II can be cast aside as I really prefer my previous account of William Maury Morris. Thank you for your consideration. William Maury Morris II (talk) 19:27, 22 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I'm very sorry but I really don't know how to help with this....it's not a problem I am familiar with. Hope you get it sorted out. Asteuartw (talk) 19:29, 22 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

That's okay, thank you for the reply. William Maury Morris II (talk) 20:58, 22 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar, at last

You are too kind... Guilt over the undeserved tribute impelled me back to Wikipedia to create Talisker, Skye. Do you know how to do maps? It needs one, but the only one I have seen misplaces Talisker in Carbost. 45ossington (talk) 08:12, 24 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

sadly I have not the foggiest idea how to create maps...wish I did! Asteuartw (talk) 22:52, 28 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Grandfather should not be capitalized. It should be in small letters to be correct, but it is not necessary to identify him as the grandfather in the caption in any event. His name is fine. --Bookworm857158367 (talk) 00:44, 22 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

A photograph of Billy Bishop on the page of Edward Mannock

Hello, I recently removed a picture of Billy Bishop from the wikipedia page of Edward Mannock, which you seem to have taken some offence at. I removed the picture because I can see no reason whatsoever for it being there. Billy Bishop was indeed the leading British Empire ace -- as the caption on the photograph in question indicates. Again, what this has to do with Edward Mannock specifically is quite unknown to me. Billy Bishop was certainly a very great man, so I am pleased to find that his wikipedia entry bears many pictures of him, and that depictions of his appearance are not in short supply for those wishing to visit his page. If the logic is that a photograph of Bishop should be on the page of Edward Mannock because both served in the Royal Flying Corps and Bishop was it's leading ace, then surely Bishop's photograph ought to be on the wikipedia entry of each and every man who served in that unit during WWI. Thank you for taking the time to read this message, and I very much hope that you will see my point. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.9.51.207 (talk) 22:30, 23 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

No offence was taken. But you should get in the habit of explaining your edits, so that other editors understand your reasoning. Unexplained edits tend to get reverted. Asteuartw (talk) 13:36, 25 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

DWP and IB

You reverted my edit where I'd removed a reference to the number of people on IB on the DWP page. I removed it because the DWP administer a large number of benefits, not just IB, so it makes little sense to focus on the number of people receiving that benefit above all others. By focussing on this benefit, it also advances a PoV viewpoint, that there are too many people receiving disability benefits. I'd appreciate it if you would either delete it again, or discuss. --Phil Holmes (talk) 16:35, 22 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Phil, thanks for the polite enquiry. Overall I'm an inclusionist, so I wd rather see the section expanded if more balance is needed, rather than prune out what is already there, since it is relevant and reasonably well referenced. Fancy adding some extra material? ---Asteuartw (talk) 17:25, 22 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

It's not really required on this page. There is already a lot of material on the benefits themselves on their own pages. I think it could well be argued that there aren't enough "see also" links to other UK benefits, but there is a link to IB, and the material I deleted from the DWP page is right at the top of that page. I hadn't realised this earlier, but in my view it makes the case for the deletion of that material even stronger. I think the best solution would be to put a UK Benefits tag on the DWP page - I believe this would then make all the wikipedia known benefits visible from the DWP page? --Phil Holmes (talk) 14:10, 23 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Sounds good to me. --Asteuartw (talk) 14:19, 24 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Done. --Phil Holmes (talk) 15:44, 24 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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The Thief and the Cobbler

Not sure if you've been following your AIV report, but I just wanted to say I'm sorry I doubted you :) --Bongwarrior (talk) 20:53, 27 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Many thanks. It's a storm in a teacup really. But still.... ---Asteuartw (talk) 21:05, 27 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

AIV report

Thanks for your report at Wikipedia:Administrator intervention against vandalism about the problem on The Thief and the Cobbler. I have semi-protected the article for a while. Feel free to contact me if the problem returns. I have a word of advice for any future occasion when you may want to make a report at AIV. The report was at first rejected by an admin who didn't see the problem, and nor did I to begin with. In a case like this, where the problem may not be obvious to an outsider looking at it for the first time, give a few words of explanation: in this case it would be enough to say that the editor had been changing IP addresses. Otherwise, there is a danger that no action will be taken because the reviewing administrator simply does not see the problem. (And yes, I do know that the instructions say "keep it short", but don't be too intimidated by that: if a few words of explanation are needed, then give them.) JamesBWatson (talk) 21:25, 27 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Thanks for the advice. I have never made a report to AIV before so this is very helpful. --- Asteuartw (talk) 11:13, 28 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

United Kingdom National Debt

Peter m 2001 (talk) 11:37, 19 November 2013 (UTC) I notice you have removed some of my contributions on 'remedies for indebtedness' because they are unsourced. The ones already there are unsourced too.[reply]

I'll put one back and source it and we'll see how that goes.

The general rule is that edits should be relevant and sourced. The fact that there is already unsourced material on a page is not a good reason to add more. Rather, the remedy is to source what is already there. Arguably, the remedies section should belong a separate page, as the economic questions it raises are complex. ----Asteuartw (talk) 13:10, 19 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Bank Bottom Mill

I'm wondering if there was any connection between the Sykes name in Norris, Sykes and Fisher, and others in John Sykes and Sons - be interesting if there is. In the meantime, Norris, Sykes and Fisher gave evidence to a Factories Inquiry Commission, giving details of their type of mill, and their employees pay and working conditions - here - reffed as <ref>Supplementary Report of the Central Board of H. Maj. Commissioners. Factories Inquiry Commission; Part 2 (1834), volume 50, p.73-74. ISBN 1236471237</ref>. This shows that Norris, Sykes and Fisher mills were called Bank Bottom Upper and Lower. I don't like to web link Google books as they have a habit of blocking you after a number of looks - not good for the article reader - I just get the info, title, and page number.

Here is a good page - Marsden through the Ages - that mentions Bank Bottom Mills and Crowther, that might be useful for the article or for the Marsden place article. The book text is on Word Press (a blog, so might be tricky reffing though it's for serious subjects mainly), but the stuff is also sold on Amazon - here. You could use the web stuff and ref it to </ref>Pearson, E., Irene (1984); Marsden Through the Ages, p.xxx. ISBN 095095330X</ref> - you might get away with it being a vanity publication as it has an ISBN. Hope this is of help. Best wishes. Acabashi (talk) 22:58, 1 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Many thanks Acabashi. Some great resources here. ---Asteuartw (talk) 17:30, 4 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

RE: Planter vs Mayor

Hello, Asteuartw, and thanks for your reply and offer of help. Without getting involved in a dispute about how common the
name "William Steuart" is in places like 18th-century Baltimore City where there are many Scots, I will proceed to the
issue at hand. The situation currently seems to be that my article has been disapproved, but posted nevertheless, except
that its "edit" page contains the earlier article that my article attempts to correct. My article thus cannot be edited,
which it needs, without rewriting the whole thing. I posted it after much difficulty learning the editing procedure, and
at a point where I was bleary-eyed (and bleary-minded), and it definitely needs to have a couple of typos corrected. You
suggest that I post both a planter and a mayor page, which seems reasonable except that I have no information qualifying
me to write about the planter. I do not think it is creditable to Wikipedia for people to post articles after quickly
checking out the subject from a basis of complete ignorance. I do know a little about the mayor, or certainly enough to
distinguish him from the planter. It seems to me that what is needed, therefore, is a way for me to correct the typos in
my article and include the correct picture, and for someone who knows something about the planter to submit an article
about him. The original article was titled for the mayor, after all, and what I did was correct wrong statements about
the mayor.
Do you feel inclined to write the planter article? Any thoughts? Thanks again for your interest.

LAndrewes (talk) 21:56, 2 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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