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WikiXDC: Wikipedia 10th Birthday!

National Archives and Records Administration (NARA)

You are invited to WikiXDC, a special meetup event and celebration on Saturday, January 22 hosted by the National Archives and Records Administration in downtown Washington, D.C.

  • Date: January 22, 2011 (tentatively 9:30 AM - 5 PM)
  • Location: National Archives and Records Administration (NARA), downtown building, Pennsylvania Avenue & 7th St NW.
  • Description: There will be a behind-the-scenes tour of the National Archives and you will learn more about what NARA does. We will also have a mini-film screening featuring FedFlix videos along with a special message from Jimmy Wales. In the afternoon, there will be lightning talks by Wikimedians (signup to speak), wiki-trivia, and cupcakes to celebrate!
  • Details & RSVP: Details about the event are on our Washington, DC tenwiki page.

Please RSVP soon as possible, as there likely will be a cap on number of attendees that NARA can accommodate.

Note: You can unsubscribe from DC meetup notices by removing your name at Wikipedia:Meetup/DC/Invite/List. BrownBot (talk) 01:57, 7 January 2011 (UTC)

Kid vs Kat Season 2 Episodes

Hello there Airplaneman, I just wanted to know if the episodes listed on Season 2 are credible? The reason why is because I am part of the Administration of Kid vs Kat Wikia, a fansite dedicated to the show Kid vs Kat. We are always looking for information on what the new episodes will be like or when they will air. Your Wikipedia Team seems to be "on the ball" with Season 2, however, I know that anyone can edit Wikipedia; so I'm just asking: are these episodes credible or is someone just editing random episodes? This would be very helpful to Kid vs Kat Wikia and I would appreciate it if you could give me the answers ASAP.

If you want proof that I'm an Admin on KvK Wikia, let me know; I'll be happy to verify.

--HugeKidvsKatFan (talk) 17:03, 7 January 2011 (UTC)

Hello! I don't need proof of your being an administrator, or anything, for the matter, as I don't believe it makes a difference - it's great you want to help do something special. Our team here seems to be doing a good job overall, as the encyclopedia is chugging along steadily as a whole in my opinion, but the article is far from finished. As of now, the page needs some work. The episode list was apparently found at TV.com, the only reference in the entry. I guess the TV guide link is what you need to look at and evaluate; that's where our team got the information from. I wouldn't do any major research using this article in its current state, although it is great for background reading. And yes, anyone can edit Wikipedia. Anyone who does is part of our team. So hey, you're part of the team as well :D. So I'm not sure if the episodes are credible or if they are some editing random episodes. However, I can tell you that the TV guide reference looks OK for usage, although it should not be the sole source. You should always look for multiple sources (that are reliable, of course). I hope this helps a bit; if you still have questions, just ask. Happy editing, Airplaneman ✈ 22:43, 7 January 2011 (UTC)

In case you missed it....

take a look at this sometime when you're around. PrincessofLlyr royal court 19:42, 11 January 2011 (UTC)

Thanks; I've left a comment. Airplaneman ✈ 22:56, 11 January 2011 (UTC)

Help editing mediation cabal

re:

http://en.wiki.x.io/wiki/Richard_I_of_England

http://en.wiki.x.io/wiki/Wikipedia:Mediation_Cabal#Submit_a_request

I am attempting to add a new entry in med cabal and cannot save the new entry as it seems protected I get:

The page title or edit you have tried to create has been restricted to administrators at this time. It matches an entry on the local or global blacklists, which is usually used to prevent vandalism.

Could I kindly ask you to make the entry for me please?

My collaboration with two editors isn't working out over their creation of two entries in two articles, the entry is 'sexuality', which I believe is an instrument to promote and broadcast intolerance, best wiki practice suggests that sexuality like criticism is worked into the main body of the article yet these two editors wish to create a specific entry while all other wiki entries on sexuality covering historical figures are written into the main body. They are the only two wiki articles on wikipedia's historical figures that have 'sexuality' entries and it seems bizarre.. Many thanks.Twobells (talk) 15:08, 12 January 2011 (UTC)

Here is the argument on the admin notification board:

http://en.wiki.x.io/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#User:Twobells

Nastel

Hi Airplaneman,

Not too long ago you approved the page I did on Nastel. However, another reviewer came along and said the article was spam and it was marked for deletion. Can you help with this?

Thanks,

charley — Preceding unsigned comment added by Charleyrich (talk • contribs) 22:28, 12 January 2011 (UTC)

(talk page stalker)Hi Charley. I'm one of Airplaneman's talk page stalkers, who help him answer questions (sometimes before he does!). Anyways, your article hasn't been tagged for deletion. Rather, it's just been tagged as reading like an advertisement. It isn't blatant advertisement, so it won't be speedy deleted, but the tag indicates that work should be done to make it seem less like an advertisement. Brambleclawx 22:54, 12 January 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the quick reply. Can you please advise what needs to be changed? I looked at other firms that compete with Nastel and modeled the article after those. So, I am a bit unclear why this one is more like an advertisement and the others are not. For example see the article on OpTier. I am happy to make updates, but I need some guidance. Charleyrich (talk) 23:10, 12 January 2011 (UTC)

Hello Charley, sorry for the delayed response. OpTier's article has the same issue, actually - it's representation of the firm seems a bit unilateral and slanted towards presenting the company in a positive light (see WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS). It would be better to base the article off articles that are higher in quality than that. Take, for example, the featured article on the company Microsoft. Since you posted here, you've gone in the right direction with the article :). Airplaneman ✈ 02:33, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

proposed deletion of article

Hi, Airplaneman! I think there are valid grounds for asking for what is essentially a dictionary entry on WP to be deleted. I've proposed this on Belling the cat's discussion page and, since you were originally involved in turning down a decision to merge it with The Bell and the Cat, I'm drawing your attention to this now. Mzilikazi1939 (talk) 18:39, 14 January 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for managing the redirect of the old article to its new home. That was very quick! Shouldn't the original discussion on merger ALSO appear on the discussion page for Belling the cat? Mzilikazi1939 (talk) 15:42, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
No problem :). I think you're right about the discussion also appearing on the discussion page for Belling the cat, now that I think about it... just make sure to move the whole thing and note its original location. And thanks for catching this! Airplaneman ✈ 15:45, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

Happy 10th!

File:Verre de whisky.jpg
Happy 10th anniversary of Wikipedia!

Perseus, Son of Zeus has bought you a whisky! Sharing a whisky is a great way to bond with other editors after a day of hard work. Spread the WikiLove by buying someone else a whisky, whether it be someone with whom you have collaborated or had disagreements. Enjoy!

Spread the good cheer and camaraderie by adding {{subst:User:HJ Mitchell/WikiScotch}} to their talk page with a friendly message. Message received at 19:26, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

--Perseus, Son of Zeus 19:26, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

Happy Decade :)

File:Verre de whisky.jpg
Happy 10th anniversary of Wikipedia!

Baseball Watcher Lets Chat has bought you a whisky! Sharing a whisky is a great way to bond with other editors after a day of hard work. Spread the WikiLove by buying someone else a whisky, whether it be someone with whom you have collaborated or had disagreements. Enjoy!

Spread the good cheer and camaraderie by adding {{subst:User:HJ Mitchell/WikiScotch}} to their talk page with a friendly message. Message received at 23:22, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

Happy 10th

File:Verre de whisky.jpg
Happy 10th anniversary of Wikipedia!

HeyBzuk (contribs) has bought you a whisky! Sharing a whisky is a great way to bond with other editors after a day of hard work. Spread the WikiLove by buying someone else a whisky, whether it be someone with whom you have collaborated or had disagreements. Enjoy!

What goes around, comes around. Spread the good cheer and camaraderie by adding {{subst:User:HJ Mitchell/WikiScotch}} to their talk page with a friendly message. Bzuk (talk) 15:13, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

Request to close a merger discussion

Hi Airplaneman,

Over at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Automobiles#Honda Civic Hybrid there is a disagreement over what defines a consensus. In short there are four opposing votes and nine supporting votes. That's twice as many in favour plus one more, or 70 percent in favour of the merge. As the only administrator I know outside of Wikipedia:WikiProject Automobiles (I GA reviewed your MacBook Pro nomination last year) your input would be much appreciated in the closing of the discussion. Regards OSX (talk • contributions) 23:58, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

Hello OSX,
I apologize for not responding earlier. I see that this has become a bigger dispute and am currently aware of discussions at the place you linked and at AN/I. I'm not yet prepared to close this, but I am keeping an eye on how this discussion progresses. Best, Airplaneman ✈ 02:17, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

February 2011 Wikification Drive

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High Pressure Sodium Lighting

Hello:

I noticed you contributed to the article about high pressure sodium lighting. I've got a high pressure sodium fixture that came with a 50 watt light bulb. I need to purchase a new bulb and am wondering can I use a 35 watt bulb in the fixture or must I stick with the 50 watt bulb?

My father was a pilot for Reeve Aleutian Airways and flew the Lockheed Electra L188. Previously he flew the DC-6, DC-4, DC-3, C-46, etc.

Lance — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lancegillette (talk • contribs) 00:12, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

Archiving

You might wanna get a bot in to do that. I use MiszaBot, feel free to steal the code from the top of my talk page, though you'll probably want to change the timer, since I have to have everything older than 36 hours archived! To put it in perspective, that's more frequent than WP:AN! HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 05:06, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the note, HJ :). I've considered it, but the bots don't have exactly what I want in their archiving options. I'm one of those finicky people who like to keep threads open until they feel they're dead, not until they reach an arbitrarily set time that then marks them for archiving. I will keep this as an option, though, should I ever change my mind. Cheers, Airplaneman ✈ 19:04, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

Deleted Artivle: Media Promotions and Publishing

Hi Airplaneman

You have just deleted an article on Media Promotions and Publishing which I had rewrote to replace Expansive Media Ltd which had been live on wikipedia for more than two years. I'm new to all of this so could you kindly explian what the issues are please. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Juemason (talk • contribs) 19:06, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

Hello Juemason,
I deleted the page because it was tagged for deletion as blatant advertising. I found the claim to be true, so I proceeded with the deletion. In addition, the subject of the article did not appear to meet the notability guidelines for companies and organizations, which also influenced my decision to delete the page. I don't see an article on Expansive Media Ltd. or Expansive Media Ltd anywhere; could you please direct me to it? If it's a replacement, I can move the article to a new name for you. Airplaneman ✈ 19:12, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

Many Thanks for the reply. As stated, I'm new to Wikipedia and must confess to not fully understanding protocols etc so apologies for any dense comments. The Expansive Media page was online for a couple of years but was deleted in October 2010 around the time that the company changed its name to 'Media Promotions'. No one connected to the company created the original 'Expansive Media' article on Wikipedia but I updated the company name, project names etc to amend a few factual errors as my husband works for the company. Maybe that's been the reason for the deletions - yikes.

The Expansive Media article was originally linked to a number of pages such as http://en.wiki.x.io/wiki/Bee_Movie_Game because the company is known in the UK for producing promotions that are linked to both major film releases, and major newspapers and magazines. They are newsworthy in the UK because of the sheer number of readers that their newspaper promotions reach - more than 50 million tabloid readers a year. The original Wiki article is still visible online at links such as http://www.ask.com/wiki/Expansive_Media

Is there a process of submitting the article to a more qualified and experienced administrator for consideration? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Juemason (talk • contribs) 19:34, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Expansive Media explains why the article no longer exists, and the same applies for the Media Promotions and Publishing article. The fact that your husband works for the company does present a conflict of interest, but that's not the reason the page was deleted (I didn't know your husband worked for the company until about 10 seconds ago :D). You do present a claim of notability, and if you would like, you can head over to Articles For Creation and submit your draft there. There's no guarantee that an administrator (let alone one more "qualified and experienced" than I am—although there are plenty out there who are!) will review the submission, however, as all editors are invited to help with reviewing. I'm sorry about complicating matters by deleting the page in the first place; I recently created a page at User:Airplaneman/Speedy (the text largely taken from a nearly identical page by a fellow editor) that attempts to explain the motivations behind my page deletions. It's nothing personal; I promise. When I first contributed to the encyclopedia, I had two pages deleted, with at least one being erased under the same reason that I deleted yours (advertising). I hope this helps, Airplaneman ✈ 19:46, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

Many thanks again for the reply and guidance. When I asked "Is there a process of submitting the article to a more qualified and experienced administrator for consideration" I meant more qualified than ME and was in no way intending to refer to you. I apologise for any misinterpretation. thanks again. Julie. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Juemason (talk • contribs) 19:58, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

LOL, no offense taken :). I'm just another editor like you who has been around long enough to know how to press a few extra buttons! Happy editing, Airplaneman ✈ 20:03, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

WikiProject Wikify's Coordinator Election

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Online Ambassadors

Hey, you've always been helpful in developing content. Would you be interested in helping with the WP:Online_Ambassadors program? We're currently looking to expand our ranks to support about 500 university students this term, so are looking for any help we can get. I hope you apply to become an ambassador. BTW, I don't know if you saw our monthly collaboration at Wikipedia:WikiProject Novels/Collaboration, we could use a couple more editors to do some content development, Sadads (talk) 02:54, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

Hello Sadads, it's good to hear from you :). I've been seriously considering becoming an ambassador, but I'm concerned about the time commitment. I haven't been consistently available for the past few months and don't see much more regular free time opening up in my schedule for the next few months (I had exams this past week so I don't have any work this weekend, which explains my burst of activity). I'd love to do it, though; it's a great initiative. As for the collab, I'll take a look! Airplaneman ✈ 03:01, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
You could limit the number of students that you take on (even 2 is a lot of help for us this term), and really the only time you need to ensure is that you are responsive to things as they pop up on your watchlist/students ask for help (think within 24-48 hours) and you check in on the student's contributions at least once a week. I hope you don't put Wikipedia before real life though, so don't worry, and I hope this collaboration gets Novels back off the ground. It's really the credit of maclean in doing it though. Anyway, I thought you were already in the workforce, what are you taking a course on? Sadads (talk) 05:30, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
Sounds good :) - I've sent you an email. Airplaneman ✈ 05:45, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

Undelete lists of châteaux request.

See Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of châteaux in Rhône-Alpes. I'd like to translate the others as well: List of châteaux in Alsace - List of châteaux in Aquitaine - List of châteaux in Auvergne - List of châteaux in Burgundy. By the way, you might be interested in taking a look at Talk:Ground-attack_aircraft#Requested_move. Cheers. walk victor falk talk 04:14, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

 Done! Taking a look at the requested move... Happy translating! Airplaneman ✈ 04:22, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

Do you know what happened to Wikipedia's DESiegel, please?

Hi Airplaneman! I have been trying to communicate with Wikipedia representative DESiegel after a long illness but without any success. You helped me in the past and were involved with both of us on my project for the 'Polo Piatti' article, so I am coming back to you to ask you if you could help me locate DESiegel? I wrote to him because I need to finish my article but he doesn't respond at all, which is a bit strange. Please see my question at http://en.wiki.x.io/wiki/User_talk:DESiegel I look forward to your kind advice. Many thanks for your help. Magiko (talk) 16:44, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) User:DESiegel has not edited since April 2010, making it unlikely that he has seen your note. PrincessofLlyr royal court 16:49, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
Hello Magiko, it's nice to hear from you again :). I do not know what happened to DESiegel; as Princess stated, he hasn't edited for nearly a year. However, he does have an email. Try contacting him through there and see what happens. Regards, Airplaneman ✈ 16:58, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

Can your or someone else help me, please?

Thank you very much, Airplaneman! I emailed DESiegel as you suggested but no response at all as yet. Could you please help me finish my page instead? And if not could you suggest someone to help me, please? Thanks a lot for your help Magiko (talk) 16:10, 28 January 2011 (UTC)

Billim1

Dear Airplaneman, i'm Billim1. I noticed you deleted the article that I started on, KXI96 (NOAA Weather Radio Station KXI96). Can you please undo that? There are articles on different NOAA Weather Radio Stations from the United States. Where i'm from, there's WXJ55, KXI91, etc.. They have there own. But there is no article about KXI96, which is another station in my local area. So, I was thinking about starting it so it can be approved on, but it was taken down. Overall like I said, can you please undo that? I have a very good legitamite reason why I created it. PLEASE RESPOND BACK AS SOON AS POSSIBLE, THANK YOU. Signed, Billim1.

P.S.: Can you people give me a break, I'm still new to all this. Don't make it hard on me! Thank you. Signed once again by Billim1.

LOL I'll try. I deleted the article because someone tagged it for deletion under WP:A7, which covers articles not claiming notability. The other radio station articles are probably of marginal notability as well. I'll tell you what: I will restore it to User:Billim1/KXI96 so you can work on it. I'll try and help :). I can't guarantee that it will survive in the mainspace, but let's try! You will need reliable sources to back up the facts presented in the article, especially the facts that assert the notability of the subject. We'll go from there. I know this is a lot to process (my first two articles were deleted as well!) so ask any additional questions you may have, and I'll try my best to answer them. Wikipedia:Your first article is a good thing to read. Also, take a look at User:Airplaneman/Speedy if you haven't yet. Regards, Airplaneman ✈ 23:18, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

WP:NASCAR Newsletter (January 2011)

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You Tried...

Too bad he did not take your advice Tofutwitch11 (TALK) 00:33, 25 January 2011 (UTC)

Ahem... :-) Airplaneman ✈ 02:01, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
Ohh Yes...he he That was all part of my Evil Plan Tofutwitch11 (TALK) 02:08, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
Did I hear the word evil? I shall bring your name to AN/I to get grilled for gross incivility towards newbies (and plus I luv all duh drahmaz that goes on—it fuels me). Airplaneman ✈ 02:11, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
Ohh yes, you did. I didn't finish, my Evil plan to destroy Wikipedia erm I mean Airbus, because we all know Boeing is better. You'd better watch where your throwing that tail of yours, threatening ANI, disgusting. (Airplane humor, get it? No....) Tofutwitch11 (TALK) 02:16, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
... Airplaneman ✈ 02:58, 25 January 2011 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Good article reassessment/Daytona International Speedway/1

You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia:Good article reassessment/Daytona International Speedway/1. Nascar1996 03:22, 25 January 2011 (UTC) (Using {{Please see}})

Thanks for commenting. Maybe he know will have to good reviews. Your comments, and Royalbroil's are great~ :) Nascar1996 11:32, 25 January 2011 (UTC)

Good Heart Barnstar

The Good Heart Barnstar The Good Heart Barnstar
I award you this Good Heart Barnstar for protecting the page Seasons. It definitely needed it! Cheers! Bped1985 (talk) 06:49, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
Thank you :). Airplaneman ✈ 01:37, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

Template:EnergyNT

I wasn't informed of the "TfD" but could you undelete this and move it into my userspace (User:Bidgee/EnergyNT) so I can work on it and other future articles? Bidgee (talk) 13:48, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

Sure; done. If figures that you weren't notified. The user was mass-nominating templates for deletion before being blocked not too long ago. Sorry for the confusion. Airplaneman ✈ 13:50, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
I have no issue of it being removed as such but its a shame that they didn't inform me. Thank you for restoring it and moving it to my userspace. Bidgee (talk) 14:01, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
No problem. It just irks me when someone doesn't inform a contributor about wanting their stuff deleted. Blegh. Happy editing, Airplaneman ✈ 14:04, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

AfD notice

As a member or supporter of the Percy Jackson task force, you are asked to participate in this AfD. Thank you. --Perseus, Son of Zeus ✉ sign here 16:13, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

Another AfD for the article Thalia Grace has been opened. --Perseus, Son of Zeus ✉ sign here 16:35, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

New Article on Statistical Software Company

I hope that all is well! I just posted a new article at my sub-page (/"Stat-Ease, Inc.") and would greatly appreciate it if you could please look it over and let me know if it's ready to be posted to the main page. Thank you as always!Michael Leeman (talk) 17:46, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

I'm sorry to bother you. I was just wondering if you've had the opportunity to look over the article. No rush, though. I realize how busy you are! Thank you as always!Michael Leeman (talk) 21:56, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
I'm not bothered by requests; I'm just sorry I can't respond fast enough sometimes. Real life does take precedence, however, and I appreciate your understanding. I did give it a skim a few weeks ago and could not find any major problems. Overall, the article is pretty good. One thing that does need fixing, however, is the lead section. Right now, it begins as such: Stat-Ease, Inc. provides software packages aimed at giving non-statisticians such as engineers and scientists access to the methods of Design of Experiments (DOE) for optimizing the development of products and processes and improving their robustness. It leaves the reader wondering, "What kind of company is Stat-Ease? Where was it founded, and who founded it? Where is it based? What is the size of the company?" I think these facts need to take precedence over descriptions of what products the company offers and should appear in text in addition to being in the infobox (the latter of which has already been taken care of). Hope this helps, Airplaneman ✈ 06:11, 19 February 2011 (UTC)
Yes, it does indeed help and I'll make note of this for future articles. Thank you very much! I have revised the lead paragraph per your suggestions. When you have a chance, can you please look it over once more and let me know if it's ready to be posted at the main page? Thank you as always!Michael Leeman (talk) 22:50, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

Andy Gray

Hi Airplaneman

You've protected http://en.wiki.x.io/wiki/Andy_Gray_(footballer_born_1955)

I want to insert the fact Gray had started legal proceedings against the News of the World in relation to breaches of his privacy. Here's the Guardian source (http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/jan/18/news-world-andy-gray-password) and it's on the BBC as well.

His former employer, Sky, is 39% owned by News Corporation (http://en.wiki.x.io/wiki/News_Corporation). News Corporation owns 100% of News International (http://en.wiki.x.io/wiki/News_International) which publishes the News of the World.

I make no claim that Gray's suing of the News of the World is linked with his sacking, but feel that the above is a relevant biographical detail.

Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wilsonjtd (talk • contribs) 20:30, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

Hello; sorry for not responding earlier. The article has since been unprotected and you may add the information as long as you cite thrid-party, reliable sources (that are trusted and respected) to back up your claims. Happy editing, Airplaneman ✈ 06:45, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

Tripswitch speedy deletion

Hi Airplaneman, as you can see I've made relatively few contributions to wikipedia but I have to admit to being a bit stunned by seeing the article I started on Tripswitch deleted within hours of me spending my valuable time preparing it.

I don't really understand the criteria that have been applied for speedy deletion. If you perform a wiki search for Tripswitch, you will find that this musician is mentioned in at least nine other legitimate articles. He is widely considered to be amongst the best producers in this genre of music which explains the exceptionally high average reviewer rating at http://www.discogs.com/Tripswitch-Circuit-Breaker/master/278838. He has received attention in the music press and I linked a review by none other than Anoushka Shankar in the New York Times. For a niche electronic musician to appear in the NY Times seems notable in itself.

I freely admit that this is not mainstream music. You may not know, for example, that Anoushka Shankar is Ravi Shankar's daughter, Nora Jones' half-sister and has produced music with the likes of Sting... but that hardly matters. Surely the purpose of wikipedia is that I do know these things and can share them with others, just as you can share your knowledge and enthusiasm wherever it may be directed.

Thanks for listening,

bomble — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bomble (talk • contribs) 21:41, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

Hello Bomble, thanks for posting :). The article was higher quality than nearly all of the ones I've deleted while patrolling CAT:SD. In hindsight, I do not believe it was right for me to delete it, as it claimed notabilty; therefore, the tag would have been rendered irrelevant. I've moved the article to User:Bomble/Tripswitch so you can work on it in peace; I will also help. There are things we can work on, though. Namely, could you find a few more (reliable) references for the page? In addition, references are ideally placed within the article next to the facts they cite for a more precise method sourcing. It can be confusing at first, so if you want, tell me where you need to cite a particular source and I'll help you place it. I'm confident that, once we work on a few things, this page can make it out in the mainspace; there are certainly articles in worse condition than this sitting around the 'pedia. Cheers, Airplaneman ✈ 06:56, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

Thanks Airplaneman... I am travelling at the moment but will be in touch with you for your valuable assistance in preparing this article once I'm back in steady contact with the web! As you can see I'm a relative novice on wiki editing but would like to learn the techniques required to bring an article up to standard. All the best, bomble — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bomble (talk • contribs) 12:20, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

TFD deletion

Hello,

It appears that you closed this discussion as Delete without deleting it! Could you delete it now? Cheers, →♠Gƒoley↔Four♣← 22:37, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

Ah, oops! I've fixed the issue now :) Airplaneman ✈ 22:54, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
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