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I don't think it really matters; I'd go for car numbers as a default, personally. Then, you can make the table sortable so it can sort them any way you want. Airplaneman ✈01:43, 23 August 2010 (UTC)
You are getting better at it! Your writing is getting better too. It may not work in your browser :(. Do you see "Sprk: cite date mdy", "Sprk: cite date dmy", and "UnSprk: cite date" in the toolbox section? Airplaneman ✈20:39, 23 August 2010 (UTC)
I think it's because it's not compatible with your browser, then :(. It seems like many scripts don't work with Internet Explorer. Airplaneman ✈21:02, 23 August 2010 (UTC)
Of course biographies are notable! I'm just ashamed right now of the conservation. I think they are notable, and if they are deleted, I probably won't be editing that much. I probably wouls only edit on Jimmie Johnson and the Cup season. As I repeat, I am very upset and ashamed. Nascar1996Contributions / Guestbook21:30, 24 August 2010 (UTC)
I certainly do not want the race articles deleted. All I'm saying is that, in my opinion, biographies of drivers are more notable (in general). That doesn't mean your hard work on race articles is less valued; just think what state the NASCAR WikiProject would be in without you! Thanks to you (and NSD), it now has a good amount of recognized content. I'm really sorry if I struck a nerve. Airplaneman ✈21:34, 24 August 2010 (UTC)
It's not you; its everybody in general. A lot of people think that NASCAR is not a sport, but there stupid (not people on here; Im just saying). Everyone says that, and one day I might even punch them in the mouth. That gets on my nerves! Also, if you think I'm mad at you, which you couldn't do, it takes a lot to make me really mad. I can't work on BLPs because of other stuff. One major edit that took me about five minutes to do was this. Nascar1996Contributions / Guestbook23:28, 24 August 2010 (UTC)
Didn't notice that, but better. I got tired of my last one, people started vandalizing my guestbook and everything. Nascar1996 01:40, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
Hello, Airplaneman. I would like to congratulate you on your recent RFA. I hope you will use the mop well, and I'll know where you are when I need you. Good luck! ~NSD (✉ • ✐) 19:29, 24 August 2010 (UTC)
Me, too! I would like to congratulate you. I believe you should have go less opposes because some of them are silly. Again Congratulations! Airplaneman! You have helped WikiProject NASCAR and myself so much. Maybe you will be able to help me on what to do with some NASCAR pages. On the down side :( A lot of admins seem to not edit as much, like they are semi-retired or retired. Thanks for your help, and congrats! --Nascar1996Contributions / Guestbook19:37, 24 August 2010 (UTC)
Thank you! As for editing levels dropping, well, I guess it's because they spend their time performing admin actions, which aren't logged as edits (such as deletion). As for WP:NASCAR, how about we shift our scope away from weekly races to driver bios? I think those are more important (although harder to work on to get to GA). Airplaneman ✈19:42, 24 August 2010 (UTC)
NSD: It's hardly "beating the nom" or "beating the crat" when you place your support or extend your congratulations well-before the transclude/close time! –xenotalk12:27, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
Congratulations Airplaneman, you are cleared for takeoff. Thank you for offering to fly for Administrator Airlines. –xenotalk12:27, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
Now that you are officially an admin, here's your crappy t-shirt. Try it on and make sure it fits. Congratulations! ~NSD (✉ • ✐) 13:22, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
… but one less than my co-nominator, so it evens out :D. Thanks again to you and Fetchcomms for the awesome nominations! Airplaneman ✈15:31, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
Dang. Congrats from me, a bit late, but I've been overloaded with work. Have fun... or not. Now I don't have to bother with closing TfDs every night. —fetch·comms02:33, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
Congratulations Airplaneman. I'm so happy you achieved adminship. Also, would you comment at my talkpage about how I am editing. (I would not like a editor review) I just would like to see your opinions. Congrats, my fellow editor. --Nascar1996 19:15, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
It's good to expand your horizons. Try it! That doesn't mean going all-NASCAR is bad, it's just that editing other topics will expose you to more information and new material, which in turn will (hopefully) help you become a better editor and person. That's my opinion anyway. Airplaneman ✈23:55, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
Doesn't one of your userboxes say you watch the Weather Channel? Try reading up on weather. I know there are a lot of good quality (GA and FA) hurricane articles out there. Airplaneman ✈00:06, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
I am very interested in hurricanes. :) Also, can you see why the MessageDeliveryBot signature is with the transcluding of the newsletter? Nascar1996 00:10, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
(edit conflict)Fixed. You forgot to add closing brace thingies to the wikitable (this: |}). The wrapping was therefore wrapping anything and everything that was below it, and that's why it looked like the bot's sig was transcluding. Airplaneman ✈00:54, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
As for your hangon, well, you can always press "edit section", which will do the same things as the subpage. You can always scroll down past the table if you're editing the whole article. Airplaneman ✈00:57, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
I disagree. I think it should stay. What about the ten more years of racing? That will add on to it to make it tooo big. --Nascar1996 00:59, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
How big is too big is the question. I think that is what sections are for (and scroll bars) :). Having it in the article directly will make it easier for inexperienced people to edit it, for instance. Airplaneman ✈01:03, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
Most of them are vandalizers, and gossipers. They are the ones who vanalize and add stuff that doesn't make sense. Thats why I want 2011 NASCAR Sprint Cup Series to be semi protected. It is easier to maintain since Royalbroil did it, and it will only get worse, just look at all the vandalism in the history of 2010 NASCAR Sprint Cup Series! :( --Nascar1996 02:18, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
Maybe in the specific instances you refer to, which is unfortunate :(. However, a fair share of registered users cause as much if not more trouble sometimes. Anyway, that's what semi-protection is for: to deter new users and IPs who are here to vandalize. Airplaneman ✈02:23, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
This is my only problem with both: Some editors edit the pages I am constructing to be good, but they add stuff that is messy. I normally redo it to be how I want it to look like for GA (by the way 2010 Toyota/Save Mart 350 now has 30 refs). Nascar1996 02:27, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
That's a good way to handle it. You may also want to leave a welcome template or hand-typed message about editing in general on their talk pages, and maybe an invite to WP:NASCAR. (That's just some ideas) Airplaneman ✈02:30, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
The others aren't used enough that widespread disruption would be caused if they were vandalized. Please tell me if I missed any. Airplaneman ✈22:41, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
Thanks for the indefinite protect. I see you're also a member of the CVU, so you understand!! I guess congrats are in order also for your adminship! --Funandtrvl (talk) 20:51, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
Can you tell me how you deleted this file? Did you use Twinkle or the Wikimedia software? Because the deletion summary provided is not consistent with the policy: I'm trying to figure out where the summary came from so I can fix it. Magog the Ogre (talk) 22:34, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
I deleted it via the Wikimedia software; I saw an F9 tag and it was valid, so I'm just curious: what was wrong with the summary? Thanks for spotting it. Airplaneman ✈22:37, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
Image copyright violation without claim of PD, FU etc - WP:CSD#F9 states it must have a claim of free license - this wording says without claim. This is misstated on {{db-f9}} and was wrong on Twinkle as well, before both were fixed. It already got me in trouble with my adminship mentor for mistagging an image I saw without claim of PD, FU etc. ;) Magog the Ogre (talk) 22:49, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
Can either of you find where that text is located in the mediawiki software? I'm lost, and I'm not an administrator so I can't even see the screen. Re:Nascar: that file certainly has the potential to be uploaded in the future with a correct license and/or permission. Magog the Ogre (talk) 22:58, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
Looks like this (with the summary in the second field).
As in where the text is first entered? It is entered in the "Other/additional reason:" section. Well, it is automatically filled out when I hit "delete" in the drop-down tab (the one that also says "move"). I assume the summary is prompted by what deletion tag existed on the page in question. I'll put a screenshot on the right (more info at WP:NAS/D). Does this help? I have no idea where to go to modify it, though. Maybe your admin coach knows? Airplaneman ✈23:06, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
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The 2010 Food City 500 at Bristol Motor Speedway in Bristol, Tennessee was the fifth race of the 2010 NASCARSprint Cup Series season. The race began at 1 p.m. EDT on March 21, 2010. The 2010 Food City 500 was televised on Fox and broadcast on PRN radio. This race marked the last appearance of the rear wing on the Car of Tomorrow, with the spoiler returning the following race. This race also was the first of three in Carl Edwards' probation following his altercation with Brad Keselowski at the previous race at Atlanta Motor Speedway; Keselowski was sent airborne, subsequently crashing on his side door. The race had 13 different leaders, 39 lead changes and 10 cautions. The race attendance of 138,000 marked the end of a long streak of sellout seats at the track, which has a capacity of 158,000. The race had been a sellout since 1982.
And rightfully so. The contents were "Pako the Ninja , a.k.a "Pako the SEXY Ninja", is an awesome person who is NOT gay, so get that through your thick skulls you @$$#•/€$!". Airplaneman ✈03:47, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
I was going 2 show tht page as a joke 2 sum ppl tht were giving me crap cuz they think I'm gay, which I'm not. I don't hav anything against gay ppl, but girls won't c me as a dating option if ppl say I'm gay, so y couldn't u cut me sum slack?
Wikipedia isn't the place for it. Sorry man, Airplaneman ✈ 04:00, 26 August 2010 (UTC) ::::::dang, I've always wanted 2 make my own Wikipedia page, but now my dreams r crushed ;..( JPgrimes (talk) 04:09, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
Hmm... gut reaction is to wait until tomorrow to see what the user has to offer, but I do think that the spammy account name should be blocked now; the user can request a username change and we can go from there I guess. Most likely the article will be deleted anyway, but let's give the user a chance to fix it up. Airplaneman ✈04:32, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
His principal user talk page obviously can't be deleted, but I think his archive pages are ok to go. Technically they're not "user talk pages"; it's just that most people archive to a user talk: subpage rather than a user: subpage. All the history is in the principal user talk: page and that's the important thing. Having said that, I've not come across this before. --Mkativerata (talk) 04:46, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
And if you want, could you block the user for their spammy username? I'd like to see how it's done :). If not, I will warn them about it. Airplaneman ✈04:43, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
I protected two before seeing your decline- I had an old copy of RFPP open, and I'm intending to protect the other one too. You forgot one critical part of template logic. This is worthless, because the template is transcluded as part of Template:The Beatles, which is used all over the place. Courcelles06:58, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
Yes, you need to look at transclusion numbers, not what links to the page. The guidance is at Wikipedia:High-risk templates. There's a link on the history page that will count them up for you. Personally, I probably wouldn't have protected on 650 transclusions, I usually look for at least 1000, but it's down to the individual admin as to what counts as 'highly visible'. The flip side to that is that Beatles related stuff is quite likely to be something a reader would want to look up, and perhaps accidently damage the template. Swings and roundabouts :-) GedUK14:46, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
Thanks guys, and sorry about that. Now I know :). This is the second time I've messed up with templates this month :o, so I should be more careful. Airplaneman ✈16:04, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
2 in 26 days? I think I still cock up more than that now! Don't worry about it, it's a learning experience. GedUK20:26, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
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I know you're busy with all kinds of admin stuff, but would you grant a little, easy request? I need somebody to keep an eye on the pages related to the Hunger Games trilogy for me. I've been trying to keep them clean, but Mockingjay just came out and I don't want to spoil the read for myself by watching everyone's additions. (is that selfish?) If you could just make sure it's clean of vandalism, I'll clean everything else up once I've read the book. If, of course, you're in the same predicament I am, I'll just ask somebody else. Thanks, PrincessofLlyrroyal court14:40, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
I can keep watch after tomorrow when I get the book from amazon. I could have gotten it when it came out, but something came up and I had to order it instead. Derild4921☼14:44, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
If you're willing to improve it, I'd be happy to. The article didn't assert any notability, and that's why I went ahead with the deletion per the tag on the article. Do you have a user account? Then I can restore it to a user subpage of yours. If not, I will just restore the article in the understanding that you'll improve it? Airplaneman ✈18:29, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
Hi. I notice that you deleted Talk:Let Them Know: The Story of Youth Brigade and BYO Records under G7 as "one author who has requested deletion or blanked the page". I found this a bit unusual. The article and its talk page are on my watchlist, and I did not see the talk page tagged with {{Db-author}} or any other deletion template. Even if it was, I'm not aware that there was any content there necessitating deletion (to the best of my recollection—and correct me if I'm wrong here—it was just project templates). I guess I'm just confused as to why you would delete an article talk page. Would you mind clarifying? --IllaZilla (talk) 00:12, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
Hello IllaZilla, nice to meet you :). I did exactly 73 of these deletions about 30 minutes ago because User:WildBot put various maintenance tags on the page (dab links needing fixes and such) and removed its notices when done. As WildBot was the only editor of the page, User:FrescoBot tagged the page to be deleted as it wasn't needed anymore. Hope that clears things up. I looked through the history of the page you were talking about, and saw no project templates, just WildBot maintenance templates. The only edit you made was a page move. Regards, Airplaneman ✈00:19, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
Thanks! That clears it up. It's just not often one sees an article talk page deletion pop up on the watchlist, when the article itself isn't up for deletion. No worries then, I was just confused. --IllaZilla (talk) 00:25, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
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It seems that I am, so far, the only contributor to Agricultural Diversification. (The other contributor was also me logged in under the wrong name by mistake). So which "contributor" has asked for the talk page to be deleted? The deletion seems to make little sense.Agricmarketing (talk) 09:44, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
Hello. It's the exact same thing that happened in the above post, which I explain in detail: User_talk:Airplaneman#Talk_page_deletion. The page was only used for bot tags, and a bot requested deletion once the tags were finished. The only other person in the page's logs performed a page move to correct capitalization, so WP:CSD#G7 applied, since the bot created the page. Regards, Airplaneman ✈16:34, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
I'm new here and just put up the titled page for a project I'm working on...every word of the text used was written by me for the project. When I returned to it to start adding things today, it had been deleted...help?
In regard to deleting the page "Lovari" (Entertainer)
You have deleted a page of Lovari (Entertainer), stating that the person had no significant relevance. There are numerous links on IMDB and Billboard.Com, as well as various award nominations to consist a strong argument against your decision to delete the page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by DoingDreams (talk • contribs) 00:29, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
There was no claim of notability, and I thought that alone satisfied the criterion which I deleted the page under. That doesn't mean Lovari isn't notable, though, as you say. If you like, I can restore the page to User:DoingDreams/Lovari (entertainer) for you to work on. I can also help, so the page doesn't get tagged for deletion again. Regards, Airplaneman ✈02:33, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
Yes, please restore and I would certainly appreciate the offer to work on it together, including providing links where any are questionable. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.79.111.136 (talk) 06:54, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
I notice you participate in the Requests for page protection. Just curious for future reference, what would be enough disruptive activity to justify protection? I know to not concern myself with the system performance, but aren't all these edits and reverts wasting storage space? Slightsmile (talk) 01:00, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
Hmmm... it's really a case-by-case thing. There's no set limit to what is considered enough disruption. Reverts are indeed "wasting" storage space, but protection also has the potential of deterring constructive IPs and new users, so it's really a matter of seeing if leaving a page unprotected would allow useful contributions without wasting too much of vandal fighters' time. Did you have a specific page in mind when asking? Airplaneman ✈02:36, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
Yup, I would've done the same. The vandalism wasn't chronic (not even daily) and could be handled by vandal fighters, and not all edits by new users or IPs were vandalism. I would've looked for about twice the amount of vandalism. If the articles were BLPs or the vandalism contained multiple BLP violations, however, I might have considered protection. Airplaneman ✈21:27, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
I honestly cannot see what sort of productive edits users could make to a bot's userpage, and unprotection would just lead to more vandalism, wasting vandal fighters' time. Airplaneman ✈04:38, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
Full protection can always be put back on, it only takes a minute. And i also do some anti vandalism and i see cluebot allover most of the vandalism is from IPs and new users i see very few auto confirmed users doing vandalism. Inka88804:44, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
I really don't see what can be gained by lowering the protection level to semi. I'd understand if this was anything but a userpage, but since it's a userpage, I'm inclined to keep it protected. Airplaneman ✈04:46, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
Hi, sorry to disturb you, but there appears to be a possible case of vandalism at the top of the Main Page / Talk - it looks like half an article!! I didn't know where else to report this as it seems to be a one-off. Thanks. Denisarona (talk) 06:42, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
I didn't see any recent versions of the main page talk page that looked like you described, but it looks like it's sorted out now. Next time, could you provide a revision ID so I can take a look at the version you're referring to? Thanks, Airplaneman ✈14:09, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
Thanks for the response. The 'offending' item was positioned below the yellow WELCOME TO ... box, and above the MAIN PAGE ERROR section. Strangely it didn't show up in the page history (or I just couldn't find it!!). BTW, what is a 'revision ID' (I'm basically computer illiterate and technical terms confuse me!! - I can still remember using typewriters and Tippex) Thanks. Denisarona (talk) 09:51, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
Hi, I saw you A7'ed this article. There must have been a mistake - this is about a quite notable topic, and the last time I visited the article it stated its own case plainly. Perhaps it was vandalized or something. Can you please restore it? Thanks. Chubbles (talk) 13:32, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
Hi. If you deleted this , how come it's still there? Has he recreated it? And if so, under what criterion should it be tagged again? Thanks.--Kudpung (talk) 15:12, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
This is an archive of past discussions with User:Airplaneman. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page.
I don't think it really matters; I'd go for car numbers as a default, personally. Then, you can make the table sortable so it can sort them any way you want. Airplaneman ✈ 01:43, 23 August 2010 (UTC)
PrincessofLlyr royal court 13:11, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
… but one less than my co-nominator, so it evens out :D. Thanks again to you and Fetchcomms for the awesome nominations! Airplaneman ✈ 15:31, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
--Nascar1996 00:59, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
Resolved: answered at WP:VP/T. Magog the Ogre (talk) 01:05, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
Previous month's issue - Next month's issue 
Done—an enjoyable read. I'll keep an eye on it. Airplaneman ✈ 20:57, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
