Template:Did you know nominations/Thomas Hall (mechanic)
- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: withdrawn by nominator, closed by Theleekycauldron (talk) 07:57, 24 May 2022 (UTC)
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Thomas Hall (mechanic)
1881 portable laptop typewriter
... that Thomas Hall invented the first portable typewriter (pictured) and the world's first 'laptop' in 1881?
- Source1 - Martin Howard from Antique Typewriter (previously) writes, "In 1881, Thomas Hall, a Brooklyn engineer, invented the first portable typewriter that would enable a person to type with the machine anywhere, even on one's lap.
- Source2 - The First Laptop - Over at Boing Boing, a look at The Hall Typewriter, the first “laptop” writing device.
- Source3 - Martin Howard from Antique Typewriter (previously) writes, "In 1881, Thomas Hall, a Brooklyn engineer, invented the first portable typewriter that would enable a person to type with the machine anywhere, even on one's lap. This was also the first index typewriter, a typewriter with no keyboard that requires one to use a selector.
Created by Doug Coldwell (talk). Self-nominated at 20:04, 9 May 2022 (UTC). Withdraw DYK nomination.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 13:40, 22 May 2022 (UTC)
— Article is new enough and long enough. Hook is interesting, as well as historically interesting, is within prescribed limits, and is (very) well sourced. Article is well researched and sourced also. All images are either in the public domain or have Creative Commons licenses. Earwig shows 0% copy vio' issue. QPQ satisfied. One comment — In the Personal life and death section you might want to be more specific about the medals, letters received, etc, if possible, but this is not a pressing issue in terms of DYK criteria or the overall comprehensiveness of Hall's life. Nice work. Article is good to go. -- Gwillhickers (talk) 21:08, 9 May 2022 (UTC)- Comment to Promoter - Can this be put into the # 1 slot with picture. I believe it will get over 10,000 views. Thanks. --Doug Coldwell (talk) 09:39, 10 May 2022 (UTC)
the article has undergone substantial expansion since its approval; it'll need a second review. Pinging Gwillhickers back, to see if they'll do it. In the future, Doug Well, the process is a little easier for the reviewers and promoters if the articles you submit are mostly done—that way, no one has to go back and double-check your work. And, for what it's worth, I don't give special preference to any hook for the lead slot based on requests—I just assume that anyone who submits an image with their nomination wants that image to appear on the main page. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/they) 22:31, 20 May 2022 (UTC)- Oops, bad ping to Doug Coldwell. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/they) 22:32, 20 May 2022 (UTC)
- Most of the new edits just expand on various points and issues, along with a few rewrites of some sentences, along with minor tweaks and such, making use of existing citations, and look good. The new paragraphs about the new twist drill grinder, and the Brooklyn machine shop, are well cited with new sources which include Hill, 1903, Craige, 1893 and Modern_Machinery, "Ideal Ball Bearing Clamp" also look good. However, the Mid life and career section is now quite long and includes Hall's later career years beginning in 1893. I would add another section, perhaps entitled Later career, and place the paragraphs, beginning with "Hall sold in June of 1893 a twist drill grinder..." there. The new added images of the "Drill grinder tool", and the "Ideal 3 inch Clamp" are in the public domain and are good. -- Gwillhickers (talk) 21:09, 21 May 2022 (UTC)
- @Theleekycauldron: At the time I created the article it was all done and I nominated it for DYK and GA. I wanted to make sure it became a Good Article so since expanded the article and improved it. This is reflected in Gwillhickers's remarks. I'm withdrawing the DYK nomination because I want to do some further improvements to make sure it becomes a Good Article. After it becomes a Good Article, then I will re-nominate it for DYK.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 10:17, 22 May 2022 (UTC)
- @Theleekycauldron: That's typical how I create articles. When I create them they are all done and ready to go for a DYK and GA and I do both nominations on the same day I create the article. Today I created George Henry Daniels (8500 characters) and nominated it for DYK and GA at the same time immediately after creating the article in one edit. I assume it is alright for an article to become a DYK and Good Article at about the time of creation. Just because I improve the article further does not mean it it is not ready for DYK. Take a look at Thomas Hall (mechanic) and you will see it was all done and ready to go as a DYK when I created it. Take a look at Thomas Hall (inventor) as another example I created last month. It is now on the Main Page as a DYK. I am hoping it will get over 5,000 views and then I can enter it into the DYK Hall of Fame. Whichever one I get first (DYK or GA), however, is fine by me. I have created over 500 DYKs and over 200 Good Articles.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 18:23, 22 May 2022 (UTC)
- sounds good, Doug Coldwell :) I'm going to close the nomination up now. Feel free to renominate if this achieves GA status! theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/they) 07:57, 24 May 2022 (UTC)
