Template:Did you know nominations/Pilning railway station

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The result was: promoted by Yoninah (talk) 20:49, 12 December 2019 (UTC)

Pilning railway station

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... that Pilning railway station receives the sparsest train service in the whole of Britain with only two trains per week? Source: https://www.gwr.com/~/media/gwr/pdfs/timetables/2019/may/b03.pdf?la=en
- ALT1:... that Pilning railway station receives the most limited train service in the whole of Britain with only two trains per week? Source: https://www.gwr.com/~/media/gwr/pdfs/timetables/2019/may/b03.pdf?la=en
- ALT2:... that Pilning railway station is consistently one of the least used stations in the whole of Britain with only 478 passengers in 2017-18? Source: https://dataportal.orr.gov.uk/media/1221/estimates-of-station-usage-time-series-97-98-to-17-18.xlsx

Improved to Good Article status by Mattbuck (talk). Nominated by Pkbwcgs (talk) at 16:39, 2 November 2019 (UTC).

@Mattbuck and Pkbwcgs: Hi, I'll review this. epicgenius (talk) 01:05, 3 November 2019 (UTC)

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook eligibility:

Cited:
Interesting:
Other problems: - ALT2 isn't too interesting as it's the 35th least busy station, but 478 yearly passengers is still a bit low. Better to phrase it as "an average of one per day" like this:
- ALT3:... that Pilning railway station received 478 passengers in 2017-18, or an average of one per day? Source: https://dataportal.orr.gov.uk/media/1221/estimates-of-station-usage-time-series-97-98-to-17-18.xlsx

QPQ: None required.

Overall: epicgenius (talk) 01:05, 3 November 2019 (UTC)

@Epicgenius: Thanks for the hook. I think that ALT3 is a very good hook so I would be supporting it. It also got a reliable source as well. Pkbwcgs (talk) 09:31, 3 November 2019 (UTC)

Looks good to go, then. epicgenius (talk) 13:48, 3 November 2019 (UTC)

Epicgenius, apologies I'm new to this process, but the original statement is not correct, there are stations which receive 1 train per week, and in fact technically open stations which receive no trains whatsoever. The citation of the GWR timetable, while yes saying it receives 2tpw, does not say anything about other sparesely-served stations around the country. -mattbuck (Talk) 21:20, 3 November 2019 (UTC)

@Mattbuck: I agree, that's why I am striking the first three hooks. epicgenius (talk) 21:53, 3 November 2019 (UTC)

Epicgenius thanks for the clarification. -mattbuck (Talk) 19:49, 5 November 2019 (UTC)

Hi, I came by to promote this, and I see the 478 passenger figure cited, but I can't find the average of one passenger per day. Could you point it out to me? Yoninah (talk) 21:03, 10 December 2019 (UTC)

@Yoninah: The average is calculated by 478 passengers divided by 365 days (1 year) and then it is rounded to the nearest whole number. Pkbwcgs (talk) 21:05, 10 December 2019 (UTC)

@Pkbwcgs: It needs to say that in the article, not just in the hook. Yoninah (talk) 21:13, 10 December 2019 (UTC)

@Yoninah: We can have something like:

ALT4:... that Pilning railway station received 478 passengers in 2017-18, making it the 35th least-used station in Britain? Source: https://dataportal.orr.gov.uk/media/1221/estimates-of-station-usage-time-series-97-98-to-17-18.xlsx

Pilning station being the 35th least-used station is mentioned in the article. Pkbwcgs (talk) 21:20, 10 December 2019 (UTC)

OK. @Epicgenius: could you take a look at ALT4 please? Yoninah (talk) 21:25, 10 December 2019 (UTC)

I'm not sure 35th-least-used should be mentioned. Just need to say "among the least used stations". epicgenius (talk) 00:33, 11 December 2019 (UTC)

I agree. There are too many numbers in the hook anyway.
ALT4a: ... that Pilning railway station received 478 passengers in 2017-18, making it one of the least-used stations in Britain? Yoninah (talk) 10:45, 11 December 2019 (UTC)

I don't find the small nmber of passenegrs or trains particularly unusual - after all, there are 34 quieter stations! How about this instead...

ALT5 ... that since modernization work in 2016, trains can only call at Pilning railway station when travelling eastbound?

Geof Sheppard (talk) 13:43, 11 December 2019 (UTC)

Thanks Geof Sheppard and Yoninah. I like both ALT4a and ALT5, and both seem to be sourced.

for both. (On a side note, one of my older nominations also had a hook about a one-directional rail station, so ALT5 should be interesting enough.) epicgenius (talk) 14:28, 11 December 2019 (UTC)