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On 27 July 2024, it was proposed that this article be moved from Jang Won-young to Jang Wonyoung. The result of the discussion was moved to Wonyoung. |
Semi-protected edit request on 2 October 2021
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I want to change the photo for her wikipedia page Forever nyang (talk) 03:15, 2 October 2021 (UTC)
Alright Forever nyang (talk) 03:16, 2 October 2021 (UTC)
- Provide a freely licensed image compatible with Wikipedia's image use policy Evaders99 (talk) 03:19, 2 October 2021 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 2 October 2021 (2)
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Change beauty+ image to chaumet Forever nyang (talk) 03:36, 2 October 2021 (UTC)
- Again, read Wikipedia's image use policy to find a compatible licensed image. Wikipedia cannot accept most images online because they are copyrighted. Evaders99 (talk) 04:35, 2 October 2021 (UTC)
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Please change beauty+ image to chaumet picture Forever nyang (talk) 03:38, 2 October 2021 (UTC)
- See above Evaders99 (talk) 04:35, 2 October 2021 (UTC)
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Dont edit jang wonyoug
[edit]WONYOUNG BORN 31 DECEMBER 93.34.227.45 (talk) 18:26, 17 October 2022 (UTC)
- Instead of edit warring, you should find a reliable source that provides this information and add a valid citation. Evaders99 (talk) 18:43, 17 October 2022 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 27 May 2024: Incorrect Information
[edit]This sentence is incorrect: "As a trainee at Starship Entertainment in early 2018, Jang was chosen as a model in a music video sponsored by Pepsi Korea called "Love It Love It", along with YDPP and Park Sun." The music video was called "Love It Live It". 74.99.78.57 (talk) 00:15, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
Requested move 27 July 2024
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The result of the move request was: moved to Wonyoung. (closed by non-admin page mover) Queen of Hearts talk 14:41, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
Jang Won-young → Jang Wonyoung – Per WP:COMMONNAME, She is often referred to without the hyphen, with or without her surname. This includes her company profile [1] and in the news [2][3][4]. Perhaps more importantly per WP:NCKOREAN, where there is a personal preference, Wikipedia should forgo the hyphen, and she has forgone the hyphen on her own Instagram [5]. I don't believe this would be confusing for anyone as the hyphen doesn't have a role in differentiating her name like it would for 유나 vs 윤아, so I think we should honour the name on her Instagram and company profile. I also think this applies to An Yu-jin but if this is uncontroversial I believe we can just move that one over too. Orangesclub (talk) 04:34, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
- Support moving from Jang Won-young; but suggest considering to move to Wonyoung instead. The Teen Vogue article you've linked to only uses "Wonyoung"; WMD and NME uses 'Wonyoung' in the title and a mix of Wonyoung and Jang Wonyoung in the article. I understand this not as shortening "John Smith" to "Smith" by manner of typical journalist conventions, but use of her mononym, as mentioned at the top of the article. The official company profile uses simply 'Wonyoung', as does the Instagram profile you've linked. MOS:BIOEXCEPT allows for the mononym as article title if the subject has come to consistently use it. 122141510 (talk) 20:00, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
- Support moving to Wonyoung. 104.232.119.107 (talk) 06:48, 28 July 2024 (UTC)
- Comment; I'm happy with either Wonyoung or Jang Wonyoung, I included her surname as she does work beyond her role in Ive where she is usually listed by both names, but also I acknowledge that to the English speaking world she is known mostly as Wonyoung. Orangesclub (talk) 06:19, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
- Support moving to Wonyoung as well Turniner (talk) 01:55, 3 August 2024 (UTC)
- Support moving to Wonyoung — Paper9oll (🔔 • 📝) 10:27, 3 August 2024 (UTC)
Requested move 10 October 2024
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Wonyoung → Jang Wonyoung – Cracking open a discussion on moving Wonyoung to Jang Wonyoung. Back in July there was a proposal to move from Jang Won-young to Jang Wonyoung, but the article ended up being moved to Wonyoung instead without much discussion or supporting evidence.
It doesn't seem like the subject of the article has ever been known as "Wonyoung" in any official capacity; she was known as "Jang Won-yong" in Iz*One, and is specifically one of two members of IVE that officially use their full names, not a mononym (the other being An Yujin). See: IVE official listing at Starship Entertainment, and official Spotify artist page.
In addition, English-language reliable sources seem to commonly refer to her non-monomously (at least as commonly as they do mononomously): Dazed Magazine, Maeil Business Newspaper, Korea JoongAng Daily, WWD, The Korea Times, The Sun, Republic, South China Morning Post, The Korea Herald, The Chosun Ilbo, Yonhap News Agency, The Korea Economic Daily, The Hankook Ilbo, Aju News Corporation, Korea Broadcasting System
I think that given that there are some sources that refer to her mononomously, and some sources that refer to her with the full name, we should defer to the way she is known officially unless the evidence to refer to her otherwise is overwhelming. She is officially non-mononomous in all her professional solo MCing and hosting credits, her group work (both groups), her agency, etc. The only quasi-official place she's used "Wonyoung" is her Instagram name and even that's debatable because immediately prior to that she calls herself "Jang Wonyoung" in Hangul. RachelTensions (talk) 12:57, 10 October 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Arnav Bhate (talk • contribs) 04:35, 18 October 2024 (UTC)
- Support similar to An Yu-jin. PepeBonus (talk) 15:39, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
- Support: to move back to her full name as per reliable sources. 𝙹𝚒𝚢𝚊𝚗 忌炎 (𝚃𝚊𝚕𝚔) 13:08, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
- Comment: I'm not sure about your proposal without a hyphen if this is considered to be a WP:COMMONNAME. I suggest to bring back Jang Won-young instead. Jjpachano (talk) 14:57, 17 October 2024 (UTC)
- Relisting comment: There is consensus on moving to the full name, but more discussion required on whether the hyphen should be included. Arnav Bhate (talk • contribs) 04:35, 18 October 2024 (UTC)
- Comment: Analyzing the hyphen versus no hyphen question:
- In the above reliable, independent sources that that refer to her as her full name, one-third of the sources refer to her with the hyphen, the other two-thirds hyphenate.
- Thought it is not her WP:COMMONNAME, when she is referred to mononomously, it is almost exclusively without the hyphen.
- Her official listings at Starship and artist page at Spotify list her without the hyphen (though, to be fair, they don't include any punctuation or spacing at all, referring to her as ""JANGWONYOUNG"). There is a song credited to "Jang Wonyoung" (no hyphen) at Apple Music
- WP:NCKO says to use the widely-accepted romanization (hyphen or no hyphen) and if there is no widely accepted romanization then to defer to the subject's personal preference. The majority of sources that use her full name use the hyphen, but most sources that just use her given name don't use the hyphen. The subject's personal preference seems to be for no hyphen.So really it could go either way. RachelTensions (talk) 05:02, 18 October 2024 (UTC)
- Here are the latest english sources that they use her full name including hyphen (referring to as Jang Won-young):
- https://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/art/2024/10/398_368484.html
- https://koreajoongangdaily.joins.com/news/2024-03-07/entertainment/kpop/IVEs-Jang-Wonyoung-refuses-to-settle-damages-against-YouTube-channel/1997091
- https://www.mk.co.kr/en/photos/11135979
- https://www.sportschosun.com/celebrity/2024/10/jang-won-young-luxury-ambassador-is-worth-itaudrey-hepburn-21121
- https://www.mk.co.kr/en/entertain/11121833
- - Jjpachano (talk) 14:11, 18 October 2024 (UTC)
- Here are the latest english sources that they use her full name including hyphen (referring to as Jang Won-young):
- Support without hyphen: per using the subject's personal preference. If her company profile, artist page on streaming platforms, and instagram bio (the one thing thats most likely in her control) have no hyphen, I would say that trumps the various other options (Jang Won Young/Jang Won-young/Jang WonYoung). Especially on Instagram, she has her full name in Hangul then just her given name in English formatted without the hyphen (as opposed to having it as her full name as is technically her stage name), which to me indicates a preference. orangesclub 🍊 23:30, 18 October 2024 (UTC)
- It seems to be name dispute due to her various names mentioned in the english sources either Wonyoung, Jang Won-young or Jang Wonyoung. I've seen that hyphen its a common practice is used for Korean names on Wikipedia; one fine example is Im Yoon-ah and not Im Yoona, even though she is addressed as "Yoona" most of the time in English-based media, same with this article - Jjpachano (talk) 03:34, 19 October 2024 (UTC)
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