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A fact from Wong Keng Liang appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 22 June 2020 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that Wong Keng Liang was arrested after Malaysian customs officials found nearly one hundred baby boa constrictors, two vipers, and a South American turtle hidden in his suitcase?

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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:23, 18 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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~~... that Wong Keng Liang has been called the "Pablo Escobar of animal trafficking"?~~ Source: "For more than two decades, Anson Wong has been the internationally recognised "face" of the trade; the 'Pablo Escobar' of animal trafficking, according to some." (Source)

Reviewed: Chandrayaan-2
Comment: There are a lot of interesting things in the article. I'd say the hook is simple and attention grabbing, but feel free to offer another suggestion.

Created by EchetusXe (talk). Self-nominated at 15:30, 8 May 2020 (UTC).[reply]

fascinating article--new and long enough, and I like the hook. No copyvio detected, tone is neutral (no fault of yours that 90% of the article is devoted to his smuggling career). Nice work! Kingoflettuce (talk) 07:39, 10 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

QPQ is done too :) Kingoflettuce (talk) 07:39, 10 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Although if I might say, Pablo is so passe--something evoking Joe Exotic would be even better (and Wong did deal not just with lizards but tigers too) Kingoflettuce (talk) 07:41, 10 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

This nomination needs a full review. — Maile (talk) 01:30, 11 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@EchetusXe: we need to finish up this nomination. Do you have an alt hook suggestion? I for one have never heard of Pablo Escobar. Yoninah (talk) 14:30, 15 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Really? He is very famous. Well there is a lot of incredible information in there so I'll suggest:

ALT1: ~~... that immediately after his release from a United States prison for animal smuggling, Wong Keng Liang was given funding from the Malaysian government to construct a tiger zoo?~~
ALT2: ... that Wong Keng Liang was arrested after Malaysian customs officials found nearly 100 baby boa constrictors, two vipers, and a South American turtle hidden in his suitcases?
ALT3: ~~... that Wong Keng Liang planned to purposefully have his animal smugglers arrested so he could then purchase the confiscated wildlife from corrupt officials in the Malaysian government?~~
ALT4: ~~... that before he focused on reptiles, Wong Keng Liang is believed to have illegally smuggled snow leopard pelts, panda bear skins, rhino horns, Komodo dragons, gorillas, tigers, and elephants?~~ Echetus Xe 14:49, 15 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you! Formatting alt hooks in advance of review. Yoninah (talk) 15:31, 15 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Full review: New enough, long enough, neutrally written, well referenced. This sentence is copied from the source; please rewrite in your own words:
Source: The Malaysian government revoked his business licenses, shut down his zoo, and seized his entire collection of animals, including his Bengal tigers.
Article: The Malaysian government revoked his business licenses, shut down his zoo, and seized his entire collection of animals, including his Bengal tigers.
I have added subheads to break up the copy; you may wish to edit those. The lead needs expansion to cover the basic points of the article.
Re: hooks: ALT1 is interesting, but there is nothing to verify that this happened immediately after. ALT2 is great; hook ref verified and cited inline. Should "Malaysian" be added before "customs officials"? ALT3 is a little hard to read with its multisyllabic words, so I'm striking that. The beginning of ALT4 is inaccurate; it was not before he focused on reptiles but while he was running a legal trade in reptiles.
QPQ done. Yoninah (talk) 15:52, 15 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, I think the second is better than the fourth. I've reworded the sentence. I think we'll go for the second hook then, it does grab attention even if it was tame compared to the real depth of his activities.Echetus Xe 16:13, 15 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Great. And what about expanding the lead? Yoninah (talk) 16:36, 15 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I've done that too now. Many thanks.Echetus Xe 18:02, 15 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Excellent, thanks! I upgrade the article to C-class. No close paraphrasing added with new text. ALT2 good to go. Yoninah (talk) 19:13, 15 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]