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RE: "Tecpatlán-Necaxa": this sub-group name was swapped in for "Northern Totonac." This is incorrect for two reasons: 1) Northern Totonac is an established group more or less accepted by specialists that subsumes a number of languages and dialects, including but not limited to Upper Necaxa and Tecpatlán; 2) within the group, it is by no means clear that Upper Necaxa and Tecpatlán are more closely related to each other than either of them is more closely related to the others in the group (there is reason to suspect, in fact, that this is not the case, but it is too early to take a position on it). The editor who made this change may have been mislead by the recent ISO changes to the Totonacan group, which previously classified Necaxa and Tecpatlán as a single language, based on SIL measures of mutual intelligibility. However, the incorrect classification is more likely due to the fact that Tecpatlán and Patla are in very close contact, and speakers from the two places, particularly those associated with evangelical churches (who would have been the ones tested by the SIL), are very familiar with each other's speech. Davidjamesbeck (talk) 21:54, 6 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]