Talk:Tsuki no Misaki

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Quality and Importance

Note the reason of appraisal standard01:17, 19 January 2007 (UTC) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Tokyo Watcher (talk • contribs) 01:17, 19 January 2007 (UTC).[reply]

I don't know what you said but I guess what you wanted to say is probably that you'd like me to explain the reason of my reversion.

Quality: before rating this as A-class, I believe that The article should pass through the Good article nomination process and be granted GA status, meeting the good article standards. (see Wikipedia:Version 1.0 Editorial Team/Assessment) GA-class is a preparative status for A-class and you can nominate this article for the good article. Please try it if you'd like to.
Importance: Tsuki no Misaki is scarcely mensioned among Japanese. Even the fact that History of Minato-distinct (the Japanese title is Minato-ku shi, officially compiled by Minato-ku) describes it very shortly can be a good reason why it is rated as low-importance.

--Excavator 18:05, 19 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

There is no ?-class on the quality scale of the grading scheme, and there is also neither evidence nor reference showing Tsuki no Misaki is highly important. Can you explain the intention of your editing? --Excavator 13:33, 22 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

OK, I understand you can't show your editing is reasonable. However, this is not your web page. I believe {{WikiProject Japan |importance=|class=stub}} template should be restored.--Excavator 14:51, 22 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The evaluation of the template is arbitrary.You should not write down a personal opinion.15:00, 22 January 2007 (UTC)—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Tokyo Watcher (talk • contribs) 15:00, 22 January 2007 (UTC).[reply]

I can't understand what you said. If you meant the grading scheme of Wikiproject Japan seems to be unclear, please see the article assessment which I've already shown you and of course everyone can see. Let me also recommend you to read Wikipedia:Verifiability if my comment is very personal. Anyway, I understand you don't want to show Tsuki no Misaki has low-importance, so I don't restore the template at the moment.--Excavator 15:37, 22 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Page moved

Page move from Tuki no Misaki. Reason for move: Wikipedia:Manual of Style (Japan-related articles) specifies modified Hepburn romanization. The modified Hepburn romanization is tsu rather than tu. Fg2 12:30, Jun 11, 2005 (UTC)

Remove the picture from the current edition.

I will remove this picture because it doesn't help readers to understand what was taken on it by the picture itself and what Tsuki no Misaki is like, which had been already obsoleted in Meiji era. If anyone have comments or something, please show below. Thanks. --Excavator (talk) 14:17, 25 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Rewrite undone

The rewrite removes all the images and makes the article less useful by removing correct and relevant information. I have undone this replacement, and I suggest that Excavator incorporate the additional information into the current article rather than completely replacing it with a poorer form of the article. ···日本穣^{? · Talk to Nihonjoe} 19:36, 17 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your comment, but I'm afraid that Tsuki no Misaki itself was a very locally-common name indicating rather small area a hundred years ago, and I regret to say that the article name should be changed into formal place-name, Mitadai-cho, or something like that with a subsection concerning Tsuki no Misaki if you'd like to keep current information.--Excavator (talk) 23:00, 17 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I appreciate Tokyo Task Force help and let me say thank you again for your comment. Frankly saying, I could understand your comment from the general aspect of the Wikipedia project, but what I'm telling is a Tsuki no Misaki-specific issue, which is not so notable. My last edition has rather poor --- yes, I agree with you, but it is Tsuki no Misaki. Before reversion to the previous edition I hope you should investigate it according to Wikipedia:Verifiability. --Excavator (talk) 14:44, 18 June 2009 (UTC) when this edit, a minor edit mark was miss-clicked, sorry.--Excavator (talk) 14:47, 18 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

If anyone doesn't have an idea to solve the factual accuracy and the multiple issues treated in this article, I will revert it to my last edition. Of course, some minor defects will be also revised, though. Thanks.--Excavator (talk) 06:25, 27 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

By forcing your version of the article you are edit warring, which is against policy. Please do not continue in this path or you may run into problems. If you make a change, and it is reverted, do not revert back to your version. Instead, discuss the issues here on this talk page and come to a consensus about it. As I already indicated, you've removed ALL the images from the article, as well as a large amount of the content. As you've refused to give a valid reason for it other than it was "wrong" or "outdated". If you aren't seeing the discussion you want, please bring it up in a more visible location such as WT:JA or the Tokyo task force talk page in order to get that consensus. As this is a rather obscure article, you can't expect a ton of people to just hang out here. ···日本穣^? · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 09:21, 4 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Tsuki no Misaki, which became obsolete by Meiji era, had been never used as formal name for this area. If you try to find documents including it, you will find the number of them are only ten or so, even in the library of Minato-ku. You can also find that they have very short description of Tsuki no Misaki, for example, 'A part of Mitadai-cho was also called Tsuki no Misaki ' or like that. This means they present Tsuki no Misaki is just an episode in Mitadai-cho. What I said at my first reply to you have two kinds of propositions; one is to change the article title into the formal name of this area, Mitadai-cho and then the photographs and other descriptions around this area can be explained in it. The other is to keep the article title that have the content of Tsuki no Misaki itself only.

Before my last reversion, I had waited for a week after my proposal of the latter selection. Of course, I would appreciate anyone's comment, but I was surprised at your reply yesterday because I believed you had enough time to tell me my explanation was not good or such thing. I don't hope any trouble, and if possible, let me know your comment or question before.

Now, my present version shows Tsuki no Misaki is not so notable in spite of almost all information of Tsuki no Misaki presented in it. If the article will be deleted under the community's consensus of its non-notability, I can accept it. Thanks. --Excavator (talk) 13:30, 5 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Restoring deleted content to Mita

It appears that there used to be a great deal of information on this page relating to the area of Mita. I've been trying to read through the discussions and revision history, and I understand Excavator's point that Tsuki no Misaki is too specific a page to appropriately leave such local geographic details. However I'm still unclear why the information appears to have been removed rather than moving it to a more relevant place. I think that the deleted information belongs on the Mita page (as the Japanese version contains similar details), and I have attempted to restore that content (from revision http://en.wiki.x.io/w/index.php?title=Tsuki_no_Misaki&oldid=191943772) there. Eric's penguin (talk) 08:10, 7 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Leave useful picture

was removed in 3 April 2012 by 203.123.15.254, added as a low quality image, but in[1], this place of origin was clearly written, it must place back.--183.72.180.36 (talk) 10:06, 3 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]