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Did you know... that following the Treaty of Ripon, signed on this day in 1640, a Scottish army had their expenses paid by England, while occupying northern England?

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Might be worth reading the articles on Covenanters and Bishops Wars in more detail (fill out background - no reason why you can't copy bits you need :)).

Infobox on Treaty - there's a lot missing (have a look at Treaty_of_Compiègne_(1624) for example).

Negotiations - no mention of the widely advertised connection between Charles' opponents in Parliament and the Scots. The whole point of the occupation was to ensure Charles had to keep Parliament in being and they co-ordinated closely with the Scots.

Terms' seems a bit light.

Note date usage (6 November or 6th) and picture format.

The connection between the Treaty of London and this treaty is not clear. You refer to the 'religious dispute' - what is it, a nd how does it relate to the £300k paid by Parliament?

Good stuff. Robinvp11 (talk) 17:59, 12 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Robinvp11: Thanks for the suggestions :) I have attempted to address your comments, can you let me know what you think? In relation to the Terms section, I agree there is not much information here, but I'm not sure what else to add, beyond a line about the terms being humiliating for Charles. The mention of a religious dispute within the Terms section I agree was confusing, and I have removed this as this section already states the dispute was to be resolved with the Parliament of England.--CSJJ104 (talk) 22:01, 13 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Me again. As an FYI I have nominated this for a DYK here. Please feel free to suggest hooks or otherwise comment as you feel appropriate. CSJJ104 (talk) 19:22, 15 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was: promoted by Yoninah (talk) 13:57, 18 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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... that following the Treaty of Ripon, signed on this day in 1640, a Scottish army had their expenses paid by England, while occupying northern England? Source: "The Scots then rapidly occupied Durham and Northumberland and at the Treaty of Ripon negotiated a payment of £850 a day to support their forces." The Oxford Handbook of the English Revolution
- ALT1:... that the Treaty of Ripon, signed on this day in 1640, required further discussions to take place with an English Parliament, rather than with Charles I of England? Source: "A few weeks later the Scots signed an agreement with King Charles under which the religious dispute would be referred to a new English Parliament" (Matthews, Rupert (2003). England Versus Scotland: Great British Battles

Comment: If possible, it would be good if this were displayed on the 28 October, the anniversary of the treaty being signed. Otherwise, the sections of the hooks in brackets will need to be removed.

5x expanded by CSJJ104 (talk). Self-nominated at 18:08, 15 September 2020 (UTC).[reply]

This article is a fivefold expansion and is new enough and long enough. The hook facts are cited inline, the article is neutral and I detected no copyright issues. No QPQ needed as this is the nominator's fourth DYK. I prefer ALT0, although either hook could be used. Request is for October 28. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:10, 16 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Copyedited both hooks, removing parentheses. Yoninah (talk) 20:50, 10 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]