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Some of the sentences under “Early Life” need to be reworked. There are three sentences in a row that all start with the same noun. Additionally, some of the prose in “Controversey and Exile” is unclear. What promises were made to Henry I and by whom? What is the significance of Ralph d'Escures? Under “Archbishop” the third sentence is woefully unclear. I’ve added tags where I think further work is needed. More information should also be added on the Battle of the Standard, giving a fuller explanation of Thurstan’s role, if at all possible.
Are there any images of the subject, or images of his coat of arms or episcopal seal that could be added to the article, especially to the infobox at the top?
On the third sentence in the Controversy section, Ralph is mentioned in the first sentence. Do you want me to clarify it two sentences later that he's still the archbishop of canterbury? I've tried to reword the sentence a bit, but the whole episode is muddled in the histories, so I'm not sure how much clarity we can shine here. I THINK I've clarified the other issues, I left the clarify tags in to make things easier to find again. If I've got them clarified, could you take them out? Ealdgyth | Talk16:40, 14 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I'm having some difficulty with understanding why my link to essentially identical Medieval standards (mounted on carts together with altars or other religious objects) found in Italy, Carroccio, was removed. The link allows the reader to compare similar instances and make deductions for him or herself, a link is not identical to an assertion and, in my opinion, does not need the same level of inline citation. Just because the writer of a work alluded to in the text was ignorant of the fact that cart-mounted standards existed beyond the instance of the Battle of the Standards should not enforce the same ignorance on the reader of a wikipedia article.
Cart-mounted standards were used throughout Italy and they are first recorded well before the date of the Battle of the Standard (1030 in Milan). The same type of standard was also used in Hungary in the 12th century (see Battle of Sirmium) As the Thurstan article stands it gives the impression that Thurstan's action in erecting his large cart-mounted standard was an innovation when it was really just a northerly expression of a pre-existing phenomenon. Given the close connections between the Church in England and the Papacy based in Italy it would be incredible if a senior churchman was entirely ignorant of Italian matters.Urselius (talk) 08:19, 16 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
It was removed from the sentence you placed it in because the source given for that sentence does not mention the connection between the two types of standards. If you have a source that explicitly links the standard in the battle of the standard with a carroccio, then please feel free to add it along with the source, otherwise, it's original research to conclude that the two were related. If you don't have a source, then it's certainly possible to add a "see also" link at the bottom of the article mentioning other types of medieval standards. Ealdgyth - Talk14:24, 16 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
“A carroccio made an appearance in England with the English army fighting for King Stephen at Northallerton in 1138 (the Battle of the Standard).” Jim Bradbury, The Routledge Companion to Medieval Warfare, Routledge (2004) p.238 ISBN: 978-0-203-64466-9
Now that Thurstan has been proved to be a Saint, I believe that we should rewrite his article so that it fits the articles of other Saints. Such as having his title of saint above the article name figure (you know what I mean), and having his feast day (alongside other details) put on the main details in a more clear and concise manner. 2A02:C7C:7B32:1B00:68E2:5BE7:1512:144C (talk) 19:02, 4 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]