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Spirit photography vs. Thoughtography/Nensha

Although “Spirit photography” diverts to this page, I feel that spirit photography should have a separate article of its own. Spirit photography is a very different phenomenon to Thoughtography/Nensha, spirit photographers claim to be photographing the disembodied spirits of the deceased whereas Thoughtographers claim to be affecting photographic emulsions using theirs minds. A separate spirit photography article could cover the late 19th early 20th century “spirit photography” craze in Europe and the USA, as well as more recent spirit photographer claimants. Anybody agree/disagree?--Tascio 19:03, 27 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I agree. I came looking for the Wikipedia entry on spirit photography and this isn't it. William Hope (paranormal investigator) was an exponent of the art and it fits in most closely with Spiritualism. I have put together some links here which might prove useful for starting an entry on spirit photography. (Emperor 20:17, 28 March 2007 (UTC))[reply]

Tascio, it appears someone at some stage diverted Spirit Photography to Nensha from Kirlian photography, I've replaced the move and recommended a merger of this subject into Kirlian photography as it's a pop culture neologistic reference and nothing noteworthy on it's own. Jachin 12:11, 19 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Um, pop culture? The term "nensha" predates "Kirlian photography" by nearly three decades! And while the Kirlian side apparently does have references to the period of the late 18th century, I do think it's unfair to dismiss the weight of the Japanese notion simply because it's been used in a film series as of late. More importantly, I do think that they deal with subjects just slightly different enough that it warrrants keeping the articles seperate. IPAddressConflict (who's too lazy to sign in) 07Mar29. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 164.159.255.67 (talk) 19:06, August 29, 2007 (UTC)

Jules Eisenbud?

I ran a search for Jules Eisenbud and was brought to this article. He isn't mentioned anywhere in it. So whats his connection?... --Ragemanchoo (talk) 19:26, 5 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

X-3

totally random, but on the trivia it says, that the girl was in X-2, she was in X-3 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.189.164.0 (talk) 01:27, 11 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Nensha?

Why is this article called "Nensha" when the very first sentence states quite clearly that "thoughtography" is the more common word in English? ðarkun coll 00:25, 31 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks to Ring, I'm not sure it is the more common word. It certainly gets fewer Google hits nowadays (~26K vs. ~21K). —Twice Nothing (talk) 06:03, 10 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I am flagging the article for additional citations needed, but here is a 2009 book source preview page on books.google.com The Outline of Parapsychology by Jesse Hong Xiong that provides substantiation for the term Nensha, but not whether it specifically refers to thoughtography or whether the word is just the English language translator's interpretation for use on a Japanese-to-English book title. Nensha might still generally mean shape-shifting or impressing your psychic self on any object, like an animal or rock, not specifically photographs. 5Q5 (talk) 14:57, 23 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

"Criticism" section

I have restored the "Criticism" section deleted June 4. The edit summary claimed

(no explanation for why this was copied from Ted Serios article. it's criticizing only him, not the other two people)

but the current version of that article lacks the removed text, and the deleted section does contain at least cursory criticism of Uri Geller (to which a dangling reference was left in the section above). It could definitely use some revision and integration with the article, but I think even this poor criticism section is better than not having one at all. —Twice Nothing (talk) 06:03, 10 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The section only cites self-published Web sources; I will remove it again. Shii (tock) 06:41, 10 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Word Origin

The claim that the term originated in 2002 with The Ring is totally wrong. The X-Files episode Unruhe from 1996 mentions "Thoughtographs" and talks about how they were made famous by a man named Ted Serios. If you read the wiki on him, you see that the term existed no later than the late 1960s when a book was written about him called The World of Ted Serios: "Thoughtographic" Studies of an Extraordinary Mind (1967), so The Ring sure the heck isn't where the term came from. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.246.136.136 (talk) 04:59, 6 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]