Talk:This Thing of Ours (film)
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Requested move 17 June 2020
[edit]- The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The result of the move request was: Move and disambiguate (non-admin closure) (t · c) buidhe 07:08, 10 July 2020 (UTC)
This Thing of Ours → This Thing of Ours (film) – "This Thing of Ours", as is indicated by the topic of this film, translates to Cosa Nostra, which refers to the Sicilian Mafia. This Thing of Ours should therefore redirect to Sicilian Mafia while this minor film should be relegated to This Thing of Ours (film). In the alternative, This Thing of Ours should become a DAB page, as there is also an album by this name. ‡ Єl Cid of Valencia talk 13:05, 17 June 2020 (UTC)
- Support the alternative. I'd like to see "This Thing of Ours" become a DAB page. "This Thing of Ours" more commonly refers to the American Mafia, but both mafias can be listed here along with the film and the album. Vaselineeeeeeee★★★ 13:33, 17 June 2020 (UTC)
- Comment - yes, I did not even consider the American Mafia as a target. Agreed that a DAB would be the better choice. Thanks for pointing this out. ‡ Єl Cid of Valencia talk 15:29, 17 June 2020 (UTC)
- The nom makes an offer I can't refuse, so support. Randy Kryn (talk) 15:35, 17 June 2020 (UTC)
- Comment: One could draw a distinction between "This Thing of Ours" with capital letters that indicates the title of the film versus "This thing of ours" with lowercase as a quote or descriptive concept. —BarrelProof (talk) 22:10, 17 June 2020 (UTC)
- Oppose per WP:PRIMARYUSAGE as shown by pageviews. Lower case This thing of ours could be converted from a redirect to a dab page. Station1 (talk) 05:26, 18 June 2020 (UTC)
- Please see https://pageviews.toolforge.org/?project=en.wiki.x.io&platform=all-access&agent=user&redirects=0&range=latest-90&pages=This_thing_of_ours%7CThis_Thing_of_Ours%7CThis_Thing_of_Ours_(album)%7CSicilian_Mafia%7CAmerican_Mafia . Both mafia articles are viewed far more than the alternatives. And note that when you type 'this thing of ours' into the search bar on WP, "This Thing of Ours" and "This Thing of Ours (album)" are the only options. In any case, most WP users do not differentiate between capitalizations like an editor would, and having two results when searching "this thing of ours" is more likely going to send people to a page about a movie they had never heard of and not their intended target. Furthermore, 'This Thing of Ours' refers to a specific thing, ie the mafia, and it is not immediately clear to me that capitalization would not be used when using that euphemism. A single DAB page makes -far- more sense. ‡ Єl Cid of Valencia talk 18:04, 18 June 2020 (UTC)
- The pageviews of American Mafia and Sicilian Mafia are irrelevant because neither one would ever be titled "This Thing of Ours" and virtually no one is searching for those articles that way, as can be seen by almost non-existent pageviews for this thing of ours. Station1 (talk) 19:37, 18 June 2020 (UTC)
- Please see https://pageviews.toolforge.org/?project=en.wiki.x.io&platform=all-access&agent=user&redirects=0&range=latest-90&pages=This_thing_of_ours%7CThis_Thing_of_Ours%7CThis_Thing_of_Ours_(album)%7CSicilian_Mafia%7CAmerican_Mafia . Both mafia articles are viewed far more than the alternatives. And note that when you type 'this thing of ours' into the search bar on WP, "This Thing of Ours" and "This Thing of Ours (album)" are the only options. In any case, most WP users do not differentiate between capitalizations like an editor would, and having two results when searching "this thing of ours" is more likely going to send people to a page about a movie they had never heard of and not their intended target. Furthermore, 'This Thing of Ours' refers to a specific thing, ie the mafia, and it is not immediately clear to me that capitalization would not be used when using that euphemism. A single DAB page makes -far- more sense. ‡ Єl Cid of Valencia talk 18:04, 18 June 2020 (UTC)
- Support the alternative suggestion as per Vaselineeeeeeee. As far back as I can remember I've always wanted to be a disambiguator. Mujinga (talk) 22:41, 19 June 2020 (UTC)
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