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A fact from Thine Be the Glory appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 20 April 2014 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that the hymn "Thine Be the Glory" is based on the resurrection of Jesus?

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On 22 June 2023, it was proposed that this article be moved to Thine be the glory. The result of the discussion was not moved.

English Translation

The translation provided - presumably by Google Translate - is terrible. No one who comes to this page knowing this song would recognise it. In which jurisdictions are the English lyrics still under copyright, and does that affect Wikipedia? Chris Martin (talk) 16:21, 21 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The translation would presumably be under copyright until 2019 - 80 years after the writer's death being the applicable period over most of the world. What would be of greater interest perhaps is: who holds the copyright at present and are they not willing to grant the necessary rights to Wikipedia? DDewson (talk) 11:38, 26 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

An outfit named "ClassicHymns" has taken down any and all instances of Thine Be the Glory on YouTube, claiming copyright violation when sung by a little Christian church in India. Hard to believe! Santamoly (talk) 05:21, 31 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

India it's 60 years, EU it's 70 years which was 2009. According to List of countries' copyright lengths only Colombia, Cote d'Ivoire, Guatemala, Jamaica, Mexico and St Vincent and the Grenadines exceed that. I think it's useful to have a literal translation just to show how much the English is different. AndyB (talk) 13:43, 28 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Copyright expired - once and for all

Just for clarity. This page has the work as "Public domain". 198.84.253.202 (talk) 14:27, 5 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

St Patrick's Dublin

The article on 'Hark the herald ...' states that the Christmas Eve service at St Patrick's ends with 'Hark the herald' sung to the Handel tune normally used for 'Thine be the glory'. This seems much more likely than what is stated here. Mdrb55 (talk) 20:16, 19 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

It had been added by anon-IP on 25 Dec 2016. It lacked edit summaries. It lacks any form of citations. Adopting WP:BRD, I've simply deleted it. (See also my own edit summary at the deletion.) Feline Hymnic (talk) 21:14, 22 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Muffat

This hymn melody does not appear in Muffat's Componimenti Musicali. There is a Rigaudon in the suite that Handel absolutely did use for Joshua.^[1] Perhaps that is how this myth originated. Perhaps Handel got the tune from another of Muffat's works. I have not found a source that demonstrates he did, however.Trumpetrep (talk) 02:54, 5 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ Taylor, Sedley. (1906). The Indebtedness of Handel to Works by Other Composers: A Presentation of Evidence. Cambridge University Press, 1906. 12.

[1] Taylor, Sedley. (1906). The Indebtedness of Handel to Works by Other Composers: A Presentation of Evidence. Cambridge University Press, 1906. 12.

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