Talk:The Front (The Simpsons)

Sassy Robot

I thought this referred to V.I.C.I from Small Wonder rather than Metal Mickey.--Nonpareility 15:26, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

I personally thought it was an early, early reference to Futurama 75.119.225.139 (talk) 10:43, 15 March 2011 (UTC)

Butters

did the introduction part of ending segment from this episode influence "butters' very own episode" on south park? unless they're both a reference to something else —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.45.193.123 (talk) 00:48, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

Steve Bennett

At the beginning of this episode, Bart sees Homer with a plunger on his head and decides to change his name to Steve Bennett when he grows up. Does this reference a particular Steve Bennett? — NES Boy (talk) 03:09, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

I think it was just a random name that was made up by the writers. It's impossible to create a completly original name unless you use irrational names like Xenu or Jesus (lol). --Simpsons fan 66 05:32, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

Maggie

I just finished watching this episode on DVD and I didn't see Maggie anywhere. Can somebody point out where she appeared? Otherwise it's pretty notable. TJ Spyke 11:53, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

She hasn't appeared in several of the newer episodes, so it's not that notable. Either way, it would need a source. -- Scorpion⁰⁴²² 15:49, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

GA review

This review is transcluded from Talk:The Front (The Simpsons)/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review. *Correctly guessing that Meyers didn't take them seriously because they were kids -> "did not"; "they were children"

• Krusty the Clown and Brooke Shields presented the award for Outstanding Writer -> present tense
• Use mdashes not ndashes for introduce the award – the first time he has ever seen the show – Grampa is appalled & a brief segment – complete with its own theme song – entitled...
• "that delightful Billy Crystal." -> period after quotation marks, as the quote isn't a complete sentence
• Adam Lapidus or Adam I. Lapidus? Pick one and go for it.
• Re-submit or resubmit? As above, for consistency's sake.
• Lapidus wrote a spec script, and called Dave Davis to see what he thought of it -> no comma necessary
• In the scene at the Itchy & Scratchy writers lounge (pictured) -> "Itchy & Scratchy" in italics
• Lisa is reading a book titled "How to get rich writing cartoons" -> capitalise book title
• a member of the Simpsons staff -> "The Simpsons"
• "Animation Wing" at Itchy & Scratchy studios -> show title in italics
• In the scene, Itchy and Scratchy are using a typewriter, Scratchy pulls the paper out and throws it into the air, forming an Itchy & Scratchy Productions logo -> Doesn't make sense. Maybe needs an "and" somewhere in the middle?
• "did you see this episode?" -> "Did"
• The "Clip not done yet" screen for the Ren & Stimpy cartoon was a counter-attack -> What screen? Maybe explain because there doesn't seem to be enough info about the context to understand.
• The Simpsons, by stating: "The show succeeded despite the writing" -> no colon necessary
• Bit of a shame there's only one review in the Reception. It's kinda stupid asking, but you're absolutely, positively sure there is no other single piece of info out there that we can use? I noticed some of the other season 4 articles have Nielsen ratings - do you have access to any of those figures?

*Do we really need the "(click for greater detail)" in the image caption? It's kind of a given, IMO.

• Wikilinks should only be included when they're relevant to the context; remove links to 1974, church, mother-in-law, internet forum, pseudonym, font, machine gun & dynamite.
• "The Front" is the 19th episode of The Simpsons ' fourth season -> "The Simpsons'"; "nineteenth"

I think that's about it. Most of the issues are somewhat extremely nitpicky and pedantic, so they shouldn't be too hard to fix. I'm putting the article on hold for 7 days, and hopefully then it'll be able to pass for GA :) Good luck! —97198 talk 12:58, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

Looks pretty nice after some fix-ups. Only a couple more things to point out:

:*nineteenth episode of The Simpsons ' fourth season - shouldn't be a space before apostrophe

• Bart and Lisa decide to write an Itchy & Scratchy - shouldn't they be writing an episode, rather? (Can't believe I didn't catch that before.)
• "Class of 1974" High School reunion - don't think high school should be capitalised
• A scene from the writer's lounge at the Itchy & Scratchy studios - show title should be in italics
• Lapidus wrote a spec script and called Dave Davis to see what he thought of it. Davis liked the idea, and called James L. Brooks - "called" is used twice in succession. Maybe just say "pased it on to" for one of them.
• Another such joke is the door to the "Animation Wing" at Itchy & Scratchy studios - show title in italics
• studios, which is a parody of the Disney animation building, which has an identical door - should be reword so as to avoid "which ... which ..."
• Combine same references using ref names, eg. 2 & 11, 5 & 13. (Ref #5 also has a stray semicolon after names.)
• External links lists TV.com page under wrong title

Good stuff, otherwise - we're almost there! —97198 talk 14:15, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for your review 97198. How can I edit this list to add strikeouts to completed tasks? P.S, I have exams for the next week so I might not be quick to fix the issues. --Simpsons fan 66 00:04, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

You can edit the list at Talk:The Front (The Simpsons)/GA1 (it's transcluded above). —97198 talk 06:05, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

All done! Sorry, but I couldn't find any nielsen ratings. I don't have access to the "Long Beach Press-Telegram", which is where most of the ratings come from. Any other issues? --Simpsons fan 66 08:02, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Further comments transcluded above. —97198 talk 14:16, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Lol, "Write an Itchy & Scratchy." Classic. Two exams down but I might need another day, lots of study tonight. That way I could get a GA for my birthday! --Simpsons fan 66 00:19, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Finished. Any other issues? --Simpsons fan 66 07:39, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Awesome. Only other thing I could find was The name of the school principal, Dondelinger, was based on the name of someone Sam Simon knew which would be worded better as "The school principal, Dondelinger, was named after someone Sam Simon knew." Thanks for taking care of business and happy birthday! I'm going to go ahead and pass the article :) —97198 talk 11:23, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

I know it just passed, but the article still has several issues. The biggest of which is that the article has an extremely small lead which needs to be expanded in order to maintain GA status. You might also want to take a look at WP:MOSDASH and make sure the article has correct useage of dashes, as I see several spaced em dashes. Cheers, Juliancolton ^{Tropical Cyclone} 13:43, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

I have corrected the spacing issue, but I'm not sure what I can do to expand the lead. Usually the lead contains the original airdate, a short plot summary, who wrote and directed the episode, and any significant details. Apart from the latter, this has been acheived. The problem is, unlike my previous Simpsons GAs, this episode has no exceptional production details. I could mention that this was the only episode that Lapidus ever wrote. Any ideas? --Simpsons fan 66 23:10, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Hmm. Maybe include some more plot info, two sentences or production, and two sentences on cultural reference? Just give a brief summary of each section, and it should make the lead more comprehensive. Juliancolton ^{Tropical Cyclone} 23:43, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Ok, I added some of the most significant production details, but I don't feel that there are any CR significant enough for the lead. --Simpsons fan 66 01:02, 6 June 2008 (UTC)