Talk:Tennis at the 2024 Summer Olympics – Qualification

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Navone and Darderi

I think those two (Mariano Navone and Luciano Darderi) have not met the Davis Cup requirements from the ITF having started the year outside the Top 100. Wait if they will get a special dispensation to allow on competing the Olympics. If Navone does not meet the requirements by ITF, Facundo Díaz Acosta will be the last eligible player from Argentina despite having won gold in 2023 Pan American Games to be part in the Continental Zone. 120.28.64.52 (talk) 12:12, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Navone and Darderi do not need 'special dispensation'; in both cases they have risen very quickly through the rankings playing for nations who are deep with ranked players. They easily fall under 7.2.2 b or c. Acosta on the other hand would not, he debuted on the ATP in 2020 and has not played in the Davis Cup. Both Navone and Darderi have been featured on the ITFs page previewing the Olympics, and Darderi has been publicly thanking his sponsors for helping him get to the Olympics. I would add that excluding Safiullin is just a wild guess as well since I don't know how you determine the criteria for whether players who haven't been able to play in Davis Cup since 2021 wanted to, or would have. So why is Kotov okay and Safiullin not?18abruce (talk) 20:31, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It's not up to us to decide whether a player gets dispensation based on one of the circumstances outlined in rule 7.2. That's up to the discretion of the ITF Olympic committee only. A player who does not satisfy rule 7.1.2 and/or 7.1.5 MUST apply for an exemption, that's a black and white rule. We can presently only verify whether they satisfy rule 7.1.5 T v x1 21:34, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, a fair point. To reiterate a point from above though; why are we continuing to say that Acosta is qualifying since 1. he does not meet the criteria either, and 2. we have a source on the page that says he is not going because there are four qualifiers ahead of him. @Tvx1: BTW Darderi had indicated that he was going to the Olympics, but I do agree that it was better to wait for the official statement that we now have, from a reliable source, sorry about that.18abruce (talk) 00:25, 15 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

protected rankings

I think it should be necessary to provide a source for their inclusion, but I will start here with a source to remove one: Shapovalov will not play. 18abruce (talk) 00:09, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The page falls afoul our sourcing and verifiability policies entirely. First and foremost there should be a clear statement that the tables presented are lists of players that are provisionally eligible to be entered by their NOCs and not ones that have been entered. Secondly all players included for other reasons (e.g. protected rankings) than the basic, verifiable regulations, should be supported by reliable sources. T v x1 21:28, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Individual neutral athletes

Is there any reliable source out there that deals in any way with the quota of entrants for the AIN delegation? Previously the article counted their quota based on the individual nation the players are from. It's OR however to assume that a delegation that competes under and same flag and anthem gets anything more than the basic four entrants in singles and two teams in doubles with a cap of six different players. Also, how is the BJK/Davis Cup participation rule applied to these players.T v x1 23:54, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The highlighting for players not meeting the Davis Cup representation requirement

Could someone please change this from the current light blue to a more constrasting color, like the others to more clearly indicate those players are not in the draw. It is incredibly difficult for me to distinguish it on my laptop screen for example. Thank you! 69.180.163.202 (talk) 16:32, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Done. I've picked a colour that should contrast against the background colour (white) just as well as the other colours used do. Iffy★Chat -- 18:01, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I have reverted that change. The choice was made years ago to use modest colors instead of bright ones because they are not supposed to be the primary identifier. The letters are there (b in this case) to satisfy accessibility and are actually the primary identifier. It will never be possible to devise the perfect color scheme for every potential reader. T v x1 11:27, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Azarenka

Victoria Azarenka is from Belarus and there might be an issue with thinking that she can't qualify for the Olympics because she's been mistakenly labelled as a Russian since both Russian and Belarussian tennis players are listed the same as Individual Neutral Athletes. Currently, she is one of the top athletes representing her country, with only one other Belarusian player ranking higher than her Sabalenka and would not prevent her from qualifying. Dzmcgee (talk) 17:26, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This situation is down to Belarus supporting Russia's invasion of Ukraine, and the IOC treating the two countries the same. Nobody is being mislabeled, but if it turns out more than four neutral athletes are allowed to qualify, the table will be updated to reflect the reality. Iffy★Chat -- 18:57, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

"legacy" qualification

It is only for players who can not get direct entry qualification. Osaka does not qualify for a "legacy" spot because her "special" ( protected/special ranking according to the ITF) ranking already qualifies her. Googolquarks (talk) 23:30, 14 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Why do you believe that she has to use her protected ranking?18abruce (talk) 00:06, 15 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It's not her option - it's the criteria. The cited Japanese article [8] said Osaka used her "special" ranking. Googolquarks (talk) 00:32, 15 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Read the article again, it says that she has opted to use the "ITF quota for winners of the four major tournaments, and she requested to participate in the ITF quota". And again, why do you believe that she has to use her protected ranking, nothing in any document indicates that.18abruce (talk) 00:50, 15 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Osaka can request but will be denied a "legacy" spot (does not meet criteria). She still qualifies though through her protected/special ranking. Googolquarks (talk) 01:00, 15 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I guess you are arguing with the Japanese Olympic Committee then, they are the one's saying that she is using the legacy quota. Here is their website, let us know how it goes.18abruce (talk) 01:12, 15 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The article said Osaka qualified but not how. The legacy spots were created as a last resort option not for players who can qualify without it. Googolquarks (talk) 01:26, 15 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ons Jabeur

will ons jabeur play in the olympics? she has not played BJK since 2020 109.233.186.188 (talk) 15:17, 15 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

We will know if she is excused by her NOC on June 19 or 20 regardless. Googolquarks (talk) 19:53, 15 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Laslo Djere

https://sportal.blic.rs/tenis/laslo-djere-nece-na-olimpijske-igre-prosao-je-kroz-pakao-korona-koksaki-pa-operacija/2024052509565100148

Laslo Djere will not play in the Olympic Games 109.233.186.188 (talk) 22:23, 15 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Djere and Kecmanovic Out 109.233.186.188 (talk) 15:12, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Bianca Andreescu is in

Emma declined her "legacy" spot. Bianca can't use special ranking because of the 12 months minimum. Googolquarks (talk) 13:41, 16 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Camila Osório has been confirmed

The colombian tennis player, Camila Osório Serrano, was just confirmed be the colombian tennis federation to play at the Olympics, but I'm finding this weird as it was needed some players ahaed of her to give up on the Games.

Well, I'm gonna trust the Colombian Olympic Comitte and confirm it. Matheus Maia NORGË (talk) 17:13, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]