Talk:Ten no Hate Made – Poland Hishi/GA1

GA Review

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Nominator: Piotrus (talk · contribs) 14:51, 24 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewer: Vanamonde93 (talk · contribs) 01:35, 10 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I'll take this one. Vanamonde93 (talk) 01:35, 10 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Vanamonde93 Thanks. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 02:25, 10 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Vanamonde93 See replies in comments. Side note: maybe we need an entry at WP:GLOSS :D _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 06:22, 13 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Checklist

GA review – see WP:WIAGA for criteria

Is it well written?
A. The prose is clear and concise, and the spelling and grammar are correct:

B. It complies with the manual of style guidelines for lead sections, layout, words to watch, fiction, and list incorporation:
Is it verifiable with no original research?
A. It contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with the layout style guideline:
No issues here

B. All in-line citations are from reliable sources, including those for direct quotations, statistics, published opinion, counter-intuitive or controversial statements that are challenged or likely to be challenged, and contentious material relating to living persons—science-based articles should follow the scientific citation guidelines:

C. It contains no original research:

D. It contains no copyright violations nor plagiarism:
Is it broad in its coverage?
A. It addresses the main aspects of the topic:

B. It stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail (see summary style):
No extraneous material
Is it neutral?
It represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each:
Is it stable?
It does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute:
No issues with stability
Is it illustrated, if possible, by images?
A. Images are tagged with their copyright status, and valid fair use rationales are provided for non-free content:
Images are appropriately licensed as far as I can tell. Effort has been made to ensure illustration.

B. Images are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions:
Overall:
Pass or Fail:

Comments

Not strictly a requirement, but the plot summary is a little brief: can it be beefed up a little?
- Nothing in reliable sources. The only plot summary I am aware of is unreferenced lengthy text on de wiki (de:Ten no Hate made) :( --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 06:22, 13 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I appreciate you are working within the limitations of the source material, but a few summary sentences are vague: "related to other titles by Ikeda"; how?
- I expanded on this, having located a source that makes this connection (which, admitedly was a bit ORish without a source, although it can also be said to be a case of WP:COMMONSENSE). That said, I am afraid there is not that much to write outside the fact that they simply share similar setting/characters/time period - everything else would go into real OR (as the sources do not talk about similarities aside from said superficial and obvious connections). --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 06:22, 13 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Similarly, the Japanese publication history; the first of those is a newspaper, and the rest publishing houses, yes? So I presume it was serialized on first publication, and collected thereafter; but it would be nice to have any available detail.
- It would, but that's all I found in the sources. More information would likely require a Japanese-language query, and I was not able to find any Japanese-speaker editor interesting in working with me on this :( --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 06:22, 13 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
What does the "imprint" actually signify, in the infobox? especially if the manga was serialized in the newspaper?
- No idea - it seems this was a translator change to the infobox. I've restored it to the simpler version as I wrote on pl wiki, with both Asahi Shimbun and Asahi Bunko being described as publishers. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 06:22, 13 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I adjusted the infobox to say 3 volumes, in line with the summary, noting in case this isn't accurate.
- I believe this is correct, with the caveat that there are one volume collected editions, as noted in text (about Polish versions, at least). --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 06:22, 13 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
It would be useful to have a gloss for Japonica Polonica Fantastica
- Sorry, what is gloss? Description? --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 06:22, 13 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Suggestion only: the first three sentences of "In Japan" are oddly ordered, to me: I would put the sentences about Ikeda together.
- Done. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 06:22, 13 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
"due to its Polish themes" - should this be "Polish setting"?
- Hmmm, I guess so. Changed. Also ping User:4meter4 because reasons :P --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 06:22, 13 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
It would be nice to have a date anchor in the lead for the setting; not all readers will know the time period being referenced
- Added the name and link for more famous Napoleonic Wars there, is this sufficient? --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 06:22, 13 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Could please gloss Rzeczpospolita and Biuletyn EBIB?
- Probably, just not sure what is gloss :P --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 06:22, 13 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Similarly, Henriette de Vauban and Tadeusz Kościuszko?
You sometimes refer to the main character as Price Jozef, and sometimes as Poniatowski - I'd lean toward the latter, but even if you go the other way be consistent in which you use.
- Fair point, done. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 06:22, 13 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]