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A fact from Tarim mummies appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 10 June 2005. The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that the Tarim mummies indicate that Caucasoid populations lived in Xinjiang in western China during the 1st millennium BCE?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2005/June.

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Wayland Barber, Elizabeth J. (1999). The Mummies of Ürümchi. London: Pan Books. ISBN 0-330-36897-4. – This source is already in the article but has barely been touched.
Mair, Victcor H. (2010). "The mummies of east central Asia". Expedition. 52 (3). Philadelphia: Penn Museum: 23–32. – Ditto.
Wilford, John Noble (7 May 1996). "Mummies, Textiles Offer Evidence of Europeans in Far East". The New York Times. – As with everything at NYT, you can defeat their paywall by doing a very quick select-all and copy before the paywall's overlay pops up, then paste the text into some other app and read it there.
Killgrove, Kristina (18 July 2015). "DNA Reveals These Red-haired Chinese Mummies Come from Europe and Asia". Forbes.
Frauenheim, Ed (December 1998). "Ancient Mystery – Jeannine Davis-kimball investigate the secret of central Asia's mummy people". The East Bay Monthly. Vol. 29, no. 3 – via Silk Road Foundation.
"A meeting of civilisations: The mystery of China's Celtic mummies". The Independent. 28 August 2006. Archived from the original on 14 July 2007. – Lame title, but this is one of the pieces that gets into the modern politics, and our article needs to cover that better.
"Caucasians preceded East Asians in basin". The Washington Times. 19 April 2005. – Ditto.
Hadingham, Evan (31 May 1994). "The Mummies of Xinjiang". Discover. – A rather substantial article.
Sheldon, Natasha (8 May 2013). "The Takla Makan Mummies: China's First Caucasian Immigrants". DecodedPast.com.
Anthony, David W. (2001). "Tracking the Tarim Mummies: A Solution to the Puzzle of Indo-European Origins?". Archaeology. 54 (2): 76–84.
Debaine-Francfort, Corinne; Abduressul, Idriss, eds. (2001). Keriya, mémoires d’un fleuve: Archéologie et civilisation des oasis du Taklamakan (in French). Suilly-la-Tour, France: Findakly.
Mair, Victor H. (1995). "The Mummified Remains Found in the Tarim Basin: Special Issue". The Journal of Indo-European Studies. 23 (3–4).
Mair, Victor H., ed. (1998). The Bronze Age and Early Iron Age Peoples of Eastern Central Asia. "Journal of Indo-European Studies Monograph Series". Vol. 26. Washington DC / Philadelphia: Institute for the Study of Man / University of Pennsylvania Museum Publications. 2 vols. – Expensive academic work (US$165 list price, and not found on Amazon, etc.), best gotten through inter-library loan.
Mair, Victor H. (2005). "Genes, Geography, and Glottochronology: The Tarim Basin During Late Prehistory and History". In Jones-Bley, Karlene; Huld, Martin E.; Della Volpe, Angela; Robbins Dexter, Miriam (eds.). Proceedings of the Sixteenth Annual UCLA Indo-European Conference, Los Angeles, November 5–6, 2004. "Journal of Indo-European Studies Monograph Series". Vol. 50. Washington DC: Institute for the Study of Man. pp. 1–46. – Ditto; about US$80 on Amazon right now.
Mair, Victor H. (2006). "The Rediscovery and Complete Excavation of Ördek's Necropolis". Journal of Indo-European Studies. 34: 273–318.
Millward, James A. (2006). Eurasian Crossroads: A History of Xinjiang. New York: Columbia University Press.

Can't particularly vouch for all source quality; I'm just running across mostly-secondary material and pasting the citation deets for it here. — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 01:01, 13 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Caucasian typical traits? Is tallness exclusive only to whites?

I raise issues with the part where it states that the mummies had 'typical caucasian' feature and then states (tall stature, high cheekbones, deep-set eyes). I don't mean to state the obvious but should be mentioned many white people are not tall, nor is tallness a whites only trait. And also Eurasians, East Asians and Africans also can have deep set eyes so it's not exactly a trait belonging to Caucasians only. When you write that these are typical features of Caucasians, it's both inaccurate and wrong at multiple levels as other races have those too. However the mummies were described as having a so-called Western physical appearance. And such a facial style is actually typical of Caucasians and so that should stay. So made the changes. 49.180.125.162 (talk) 16:22, 28 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Intro Unclear - So what really happened to them

I just read this and was not able to understand that what really happened to them in the end, did they just go extinct in the end or intermixed with proto Tocharians/Indo European Migrants?

The intro is really unclear for a layperson like me. Nohorizonss (talk) 11:43, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Using outdated language

“Caucasian” “Asian” these type of misleading pseudo scientific language should not be used in the wiki. I find it hard to take this seriously because it exudes the professionalism of a 4 chan post. 78.184.70.85 (talk) 22:57, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]