Talk:Swimming stroke

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Front crawl or freestyle

I have changed freestyle back to front crawl. Whilst it is always used in freestyle competitions, the name of the stroke remains front crawl. GTH1 (talk) 19:20, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

Scissor kick

The scissor kick link leads to a disambig page, no links from which are helpful. I've added an indication of what is meant by scissor kick in swimming. wals

Does anyone know any details of the existence and use of the 'arm and a leg' stroke mentioned? Centrepull (talk) 14:07, 21 November 2009 (UTC)

I don't actually know anything about it, but it sounds like a training stroke. It might allow the swimmer to develop greater strength in the individual limbs, correct imbalances between contralateral pathways, increase strength and agility. Maybe if you're a lifeguard and might actually need to tow a victim, this could improve your lifeguard stroke. It also just trains contralateral patterns. Can't think it would be useful for getting from Point A to Point B. :-| Wood Monkey 17:54, 4 July 2018 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Neurodog (talk • contribs)

The scissor kick is mentioned twice as being used in the breaststroke. This is inaccurate. The breaststroke uses a whip kick, aka lateral kick, aka frog kick. Dtweney (talk) 20:45, 30 October 2015 (UTC)

Cleanup on aisle two!

Trying to straighten out this list - it's a bit of a mess. Rule: strokes with articles come first, their variations are described in sub-bullets. Kortoso (talk) 20:10, 16 October 2013 (UTC)

Rescue swimming

Seems to me there's a thundering herd of information on rescue swimming here that oughta be in a separate article so it can be found better. Kortoso (talk) 20:09, 16 October 2013 (UTC)

Error: backstroke

The section on backstroke describes the stroke the name of which I am looking for, but it does not describe the stroke that backstroke describes. Triacylglyceride (talk) 19:56, 27 December 2013 (UTC)

Amputee and Paralympian are not equivalent.

The lede adds Paralympian in parenthesis after amputee as if to indicate that they are the same, but this is not so. I think this sentence needs rephrasing, but I am unsure which way to go with it. Any thoughts? MidlandLinda (talk) 12:57, 19 November 2015 (UTC)

Screwy strokes?

The descriptions of some of the more exotic strokes (one is even called the "corkscrew") leave a lot to be desired. See for instance the description of the "cuttlefish stroke" which says something about it being a passive stroke using just the arms, presumably when moving in a fast current (my interpolation; it doesn't quite actually say that), but doesn't say exactly what the arms do.

There is mention of a "forward backstroke" which was particularly cryptic and incoherent; I cleaned up the sentences best I could, and deleted something about it being a "simple improvement of the cattle fish stroke". "Cattle fish" presumably means "cuttlefish", but the article doesn't contain a useful description of what the cuttlefish stroke is, and the section on the forward backstroke doesn't say what the improvement is.

Someone who knows about these strokes, and can write English, should go through and clean these up.Wood Monkey 17:49, 4 July 2018 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Neurodog (talk • contribs)

BCF??

The acronym "BCF" is used twice, but there is no definition or explication of what it means, and no link to it. Google provides a number of interesting possibilities, but the first 5 or so are clearly not it.Wood Monkey 17:58, 4 July 2018 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Neurodog (talk • contribs)

RE: "BCF" and "Screwy Strokes"

I have performed a manual revert of a very old edit to address both of these concerns: http://en.wiki.x.io/w/index.php?title=Swimming_stroke&diff=prev&oldid=787246610. Based on reading, it appears that it was borderline vandalism or use of a translation service from another language to produce the edits.

This IP user added "strokes" that are: a) not strokes humans are mechanically capable of (for example, attempting to swim backstroke, but with arms moving in the reverse of backstroke as in the "forward backstroke" they added would injure you), and b) are described in a nonsensical way that does nothing to actually illustrate a stroke (as in "Meandering is transmitted to the hips and legs. Undulation is most pronounced between the shoulders and thighs." from the "flicker kick" they added, or "Swimmer then starts to undulate first with hand and shoulders then trespassing undulation on legs", from the "eel style" they added).

This edit also cited this paper to support their edits to the "strokes" section, which is actually about individual swimmers (fish) in a school of fish, not human swimming at all: https://www.academia.edu/33629374/Natural_modes_of_swimming_new_swimming_styles_how_to_swim_with_efficient_buoyant_velocity

This edit was also the source of the "BCF" acronym mentioned previously; they added the entire "Undulation" section which I have removed in its entirety. It cited a single paper that was, once again, only about fish locomotion, and as with the "stroke" additions, it was vague and did not communicate any clear (or decipherable) information about human swimming strokes. Crispykitty22 (talk) 05:27, 27 October 2021 (UTC)

Other strokes

I don't have citable sources for these two strokes, but they are real. Maybe sone- one can find some good sources so we can add the strokes. 1) over-arm sidestroke. I was taught this in the Y as a stroke to use in rough water. 2) back butter. I started doing the butterfly on my back about fifty years ago. Since then, I have occasionally seen other recreational swimmers doing it. Kdammers (talk) 21:05, 23 December 2023 (UTC)