Talk:Superteams in the NBA

This page was proposed for deletion by 74.88.72.2 (talk · contribs) on 28 March 2021 with the comment:
Anti-LeBron James propaganda, article written from fan perspective without neutrality and is ahistorical, article does not meet Wikipedia's notability guidelines, article is of low importance
It was contested by Bagumba (talk · contribs) on 2021-03-28 with the comment:
Content can be cleaned, but the topic is likely notable with number of sources with "superteam" in title

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Anti-LeBron propaganda

This entire article is biased anti-LeBron James propaganda written from a fan perspective and should be deleted. "Superteams" or teams with multiple "All-Star level" basketball players have always existed in the NBA. I have proposed this article for deletion. 19:42, 28 March 2021 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.88.72.2 (talk)

As ridiculous as it seems to suggest, this article really is written by somebody with an extremely transparent anti-LeBron slant. The criteria they use to define the 2010 Heat as a Superteam is entirely applicable to the 2008 Celtics, but the author deflects from that by saying those who disagree are "notably LeBron James fans". This article has the unmistakably inconsistent writing style of a hot take enthusiast. 2601:547:1300:D4E0:D8A6:5632:13EA:784C (talk) 16:41, 24 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

If anything, the article is pro-LeBron James. 10-14 Heat should be in the "failed superteams" section. And the 14-18 Cavs were also superteams. 176.58.197.198 (talk) 20:01, 23 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The 10-14 Heat should not be in the "failed superteams" section since they were able to win two championships in the 4 years that they played. Failed superteams should only apply to teams that failed to win a single title with their cores.ActivBowser9177 (talk) 19:12, 28 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Definition

A superteam in the National Basketball Association (NBA) is a franchise which has three or more Hall of Fame-caliber players who decided to join together in pursuit of a league championship.

The lead sentence is not consistent with the current content of the rest of the page. "three or more Hall of Fame-caliber players who decided to join together" would point to James, Bosh, and Wade all signing as free agents. Or the Warriors stars all going to the Hamptons to recruit Durant. If superteam just refer to having any "Big 3", then "decided to join together" should be struck, and there's a lot of examples missing. At any rate, this needs a lot of cleanup to make it anything but a bloggy, WP:OR writeup.—Bagumba (talk) 08:18, 31 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I have added a section discussing the varying definitions NBA fans have for a "superteam". The previous version of the article had a specific definition and failed to withhold that definiton throughout the article. Hopefully this helps keep the article more consistent. It still needs a lot of work, and I intend to work on it more in the future. I was honestly surprised that there was a Wikipedia article about superteams in the first place, as it is a very subjective term to begin with. For instance, the article mentions the 1977 Sixers as a failed superteam, but I have never heard anyone call that team a superteam. Elijah33ljb (talk) 20:48, 6 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

This article talks about Boston's Pierce/Garnett/Allen being a superteam because they build via trade, which is different than a bunch of free agents deciding to team up.—Bagumba (talk) 10:50, 5 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, do they need to join simultaneously? Is that the distinction? If so, it seems extremely arbitrary. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.41.28.222 (talk) 19:40, 2 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

60's Celtics

How come the 60's Celtics with Bill Russell is not on the list? Alielmi1207 (talk) 02:31, 19 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The "Definition" section defines it as stars acquired by trade or free agency. —Bagumba (talk) 09:00, 19 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Unsourced

This article is horribly unsourced, especially regarding the "current" and "failed" superteams. I see no citations that suggest these were considered superteams, nor that they "failed" - just lots of original research. I'm going to start clearing this in the next week or so of all unsourced content. --ZimZalaBim ^talk 00:52, 22 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Once again, we cannot just provide commentary on teams with lots of stars who might or might not have been successful. We have WP:SYNTH and WP:NOR policies to adhere to. Teams must have WP:RS that indicate they are "superteams", and this is especially true for any commentary about whether they have "failed". --ZimZalaBim ^talk 02:55, 11 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Recent addition of Bucks

@ActivBowser9177: Re this edit, if "several media reporters" have used the term, then we should have reliable sources to include. Your personal opinion isn't enough. This should be reverted if a RS isn't provided. --ZimZalaBim ^talk 18:43, 28 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Alright, I added a few sources that have claimed the Bucks to be a superteam. ActivBowser9177 (talk) 19:07, 28 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Celtics current superteam?

I mean, they have 2 of the best players in the league(Tatum and Brown) an underrated big(Porzingis) and an all star capable PG(Jrue) and it shows as they are first in the east Jackmac6812 (talk) 13:03, 11 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I have not once heard anybody refer to the current Celtics as a super team — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.45.196.82 (talk) 16:16, 24 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Why are the Current Celtics gone?

I mean, they just won a championship and people are considering this team as one of the best of all time, and the bot who got rid of them said there were no all nba players. Tatum made 1st team all-nba, Derrick white and Jrue Holiday, who both joined the Celtics, got 2nd team all defensive. Brown was snubbed of 3rd team all nba, and Porzingis very well could've got a defensive team. Jackmac6812 (talk) 19:00, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]