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On 11 August 2022, it was proposed that this article be moved to Strength (tarot card). The result of the discussion was moved to "tarot" ( 'small t' ).

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Fascinating changes, who ever you are who added the Kabbalistic stuff. I recognize some of the language, but not enough to judge it. Hope you don't mind that I moved it, did some minor copy editing. Lutanite 23:26, 7 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I removed the "Examples" section since it was entirely Original Research which Wikipedia does not allow. I left the "mythopoeteic interpretation" section because that may have come from a reputable source but it seems to be something based on personal interpretation like the "Examples" section. - DNewhall

Are Eden Grey's and Hajo Banzhaf's books not personal interpretation? Having read several comments on the subject by various Wikipedia editors, my impression is the line passes between "I'm saying so on my website" and "I'm saying so on Wikipedia". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.183.162.183 (talk) 14:39, 20 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Unverifiable and unbalanced content

The article is just personal opinions from an occult enthusiast about the nature and meaning of a particular tarot card. No peer reviewed books or journal articles are cited. No references or footnotes are given. When a new statement is added, the source needs to be cited, and the source needs to be verifiable, and reliable. Waite is not an unbiased, factual source on the history or evolution of tarot cards. The work can be cited properly, however: "Waite's opinion in his book The Pictorial Key to the Tarot ... etc" The other sources are definitely of questionable academic weight.

The card in question has a history of over 500 years in European card games in which it is used as trump card (see Tarocchi). The article is unbalanced in that it only features the recent uses of the card for divination. This makes the article biased due to its recentism. Since the article ignores use of the card for game play in Europe and other parts of the world, it offers an anglo-american perspective that raises NPOV issues. There are academic sources and sources from international organizations discussing the history and evolution of the "Fortitude" card as well as its use in games. Such sources need to be utilized. - Parsa 07:54, 23 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

origins and meaning

Why is Cyrene not referenced? As a woman who subdued a lion with her own hands and won the love of the sun god, she seems the most obvious figure to be represented on this tarot. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 38.98.177.132 (talk) 23:10, 15 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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I did what I could, on the CE front, and tried to insert fact tags where the most problematic areas are. These tarot articles are great, but need more work to make them truly encyclopedic - someone needs to devote quite a bit of time to the content. Not sure what larger project would find this of high priority.Levalley (talk) 01:38, 7 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Move discussion in progress

There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:The Fool (Tarot card) which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. —RMCD bot 13:32, 11 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]