Talk:Steep, Hampshire

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Review: March 23, 2016. (Reviewed version).

Requested move 13 February 2016

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The result of the move request was: Moved (non-admin closure) © Tbhotch^™ (en-2.5). 23:15, 20 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Steep → Steep, Hampshire
Steep (disambiguation) → Steep

– WP:ASTONISH. I don't think a village with 849 people is the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC for such a common term. None of my first 50 Google Search and Google Books results for "steep -wikipedia" are about this village, and only one of my first 50 DuckDuckGo search results are about this village. See also Talk:Wells, Somerset#Requested move for a similar move request concerning a city in England. sst✈^(conjugate) 16:55, 13 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Retain I don't see any problem with the name or note any confusion with its adjective. There are dozens of Hampshire villages I can pick out with simple names like this one, such as Wield. JAGUAR 17:09, 13 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
- Wield (disambiguation) is a red link. There are few if any topics that can be confused with the place in Hampshire. "[place], Hampshire" is also consistent with many page titles listed on the List of places in Hampshire. sst✈^(conjugate) 02:23, 14 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Support looks like a potential mislink magnet, population of 900, no. In ictu oculi (talk) 00:04, 14 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nom. I don't see how such a tiny place meets the primary topic criteria. Talk:Settle, North Yorkshire#Requested moves provides another example. Egsan Bacon (talk) 04:47, 14 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nom. WP:USPLACE and not primary topic, since the verb "steep" is very common in cooking -- 70.51.200.135 (talk) 05:39, 14 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
WP:USPLACE only applies to US places, as the name suggests. Waggers TALK 15:56, 18 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

It's times like these that I wish Americans would have their own version of Wikipedia. JAGUAR 19:35, 18 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Support per nom; clear absence of a primary topic, given that only a very small proportion of uses of the word "steep" are references to the village. bd2412 T 22:53, 14 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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GA Review

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Reviewer: Sainsf (talk · contribs) 04:20, 23 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hi! I am interested to review this. Sainsf <^>_{Feel at home} 04:20, 23 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Lead

Could England be linked? I have seen the country linked in many articles.

Done JAGUAR 11:45, 23 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

According to the 2011 census of England?

I've linked the United Kingdom Census 2011 JAGUAR 11:45, 23 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

According to the 2011 census, it had a population of 849 This important fact has not been mentioned in the main text. I guess the citation could go there as well.

Oops, forgot about that. I've added it in the geography and demographics section JAGUAR 11:45, 23 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

a progressive public school I think "progressive" could be linked to Progressive education

Done JAGUAR 11:45, 23 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Prehistory to Roman

The village name has been spelled in various ways Are all these names in English or in French as well? Foreign names are typically kept in italics.

Added italics to the French names (I'm curious to know why it had French names in the first place) JAGUAR 11:45, 23 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

La Stuppe, La Stiepe When were these used? Are they still used? Should be clear.

'La Stuppe, La Stiepe were both used in the 14 century, it is identified with the brackets after 'Stupe'. I hope that makes sense for the reader? JAGUAR 11:45, 23 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Can "ridge" be linked?

Done JAGUAR 11:45, 23 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

An ancestor of mine who migrated from Steep to Nottingham in the 1870s is recorded in the 1881 census as coming from Stup. I guess this represents his pronunciation at the time, as I doubt the census enumerator in Nottingham knew anything about Steep.Sjwells53 (talk) 19:21, 25 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Medieval to Tudor

The early 17th century was also described as a "great rebuilding" of the village described by whom?

I assume William Page, the author who wrote the history of Steep JAGUAR 11:45, 23 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Can "depression" be linked?

Linked Depression (economics) JAGUAR 11:45, 23 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

19th century to Second World War

Can "conduit" be linked?

Linked JAGUAR 11:45, 23 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

and his children attended Bedales School and his wife also taught there Can we avoid repeating the "and...and" structure?

Rephrased JAGUAR 11:45, 23 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Geography and demographics

Steep is located in the eastern southern part of Hampshire Could be clearer if we write "eastern part of southern Hampshire".

Good catch, done JAGUAR 11:45, 23 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

"Steep Marsh" is a duplink.

I clicked the link and it directs to Steep Marsh just fine? Maybe it was an error on the toolserver's part JAGUAR 11:45, 23 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

sandy loam, with the subsoil being gravel and sand I think we need more links here.

Linked everything but sand, as I thought that would be overlinking JAGUAR 11:45, 23 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The prominent crops are wheat, barley, and oats I think we need not link "wheat" at least.

Agreed, delinked! JAGUAR 11:45, 23 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Notable landmarks

Can chancel and nave be linked or explained?

I've linked them, they seem to be important in church architecture JAGUAR 11:45, 23 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Ropley is a duplink

Strange. Again, Ropley links fine? JAGUAR 11:45, 23 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The Harrow is an 18th-century Grade II listed public house and was first built in the 18th century Can we avoid repeating "18th century"?

Cut JAGUAR 11:45, 23 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Possible paraphrasing

Earwig's copyvio detector showed some paraphrasing from the website [[1]]. You can see the results here. This should be repaired. Sainsf <^>_{Feel at home} 05:48, 23 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I've done some copyediting. The British History Online is by far the best source, but its stylisation is so old that it's difficult to rephrase some of it. JAGUAR 11:50, 23 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Sources: Ref. 6 seems a bit cloudy. I am not sure if Google Maps can be used as a source.

You're right. I removed it; I don't think it's necessary to source how far the nearest town is etc. JAGUAR 11:50, 23 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

That should be all. Good luck! Sainsf <^>_{Feel at home} 04:55, 23 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you so much for the review Sainsf! I think I've got everything. I made this article as comprehensive as possible, but it's hard to do so with only a handful of sources. I was lucky enough to find what sources I could anyway, as information on these places are scarce. I wish I could have found better photos on the internet, the scenery is stunning. JAGUAR 11:50, 23 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Awesome Jaguar! About duplinks, they are simply repeated links. No trouble with the links themselves, but we typically link terms once in the article. That done, I would be happy to pass this article. Indeed, I would love to see the scenery. Sainsf <^>_{Feel at home} 11:58, 23 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Oops, all done now. I've delinked the duplinks. Yeah, the scenery is stunning, it's called Steep for a reason! I was surprised that there weren't any images on it. JAGUAR 12:23, 23 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hehe, I wish I could take a dozen snaps of it! I am mad at scenery. Getting back to business, I believe the article is ready for GA status now. The copyvio issue has improved and is not serious. The prose is excellent and supported by a sufficient number of sources. I gladly promote this article. Congrats! Sainsf <^>_{Feel at home} 12:32, 23 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]