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@Rob108 Please explain why you are adding this here? what is the relevance of this murder for this article? Are murders happening in a city added to the city article? Please do not add without discussing. Venkat TL (talk) 15:33, 16 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

This is turning out to be an important incident as now there are protests around this incident. It is a brutal murder and must be reported. By specifically deleting my content pointing to the violence by farm protestors and specifically Sikh extremists, you are showing a clear bias for violence perpetrated by farm protestors. So, either counter my sources and facts, opr stop deleting my content on this and other pages. Thanks. Rob108 (talk)Rob108 — Preceding undated comment added 15:37, 16 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I noticed from your talk page that your Draft:2021 lynching and killing of dalit by farm protestors has been rejected. If you think it is a important incident then, you should fix the issues raised there, instead of posting the content on other pages. I can see why this murder needs to be listed here. --Venkat TL (talk) 15:40, 16 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

So, you did not delete the section before I edited it. It clearly shows that you had a problem with my specifics and not the section itself. If you repeat the deletion, I will report you for vandalism. Rob108 (talk)rob108

The section on Singhu Border Lynching of Dalit (2021) was there before I edited it. And since you removed it after my edits, it means you are bullying me. I will report you for vandalism. Rob108 (talk) rob108

you have not answered my question. You cannot keep reverting and expect that the content will remain without making consensus. Please read the message on your talk page first. Venkat TL (talk) 15:48, 16 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Rob108, please stop restoring your preferred version and take a look at the guidelines linked on your talk page, you need consensus to include material in articles. Your addition has multiple issues which are incompatible in an encyclopedia, this isn't a tabloid or a social media forum, for instance it contained material which were not directly supported by the citations but rather unsourced derivations of them, the sources themselves were poor, it had an unencyclopedic tone and as a result of all of these, serious BLP violations since significant parts of the addition referred to specific individuals. Not to mention even if all this were fixed, it would still be an issue of undue weight to make the primary topic in the body of an article about a settlement, a single crime event, which should be fairly obvious. Tayi Arajakate _Talk 16:28, 16 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

While I mostly agree with Venkat TL (talk) that this is primarily a "City/Village page" should not have details of any event or incident. By similar logic, the protest event should also have a very brief mention around 1-2 sentences. Also, by same logic, since Singhu border has once again come into limelight and widely reported in news over the brutal Dalit murder, it can have a very brief mention of 1 phrase or 1 sentence. WP guidelines allow City pages to mention very briefly a recent incident that has been widely reported in WP:RS sources. I think this will help us reach a consensus. Dhy.rjw (talk) 22:12, 16 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

We can very briefly mention 1 sentence that Singhu border again came into news for the brutal Singhu border Lynching incident in which a dalit youth was killed. Or we can just mention 1 phrase that there was a brutal Singhu border lynching (2021) incident, providing WP:RS sources. Dhy.rjw (talk) 22:20, 16 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Agree with Talk that this incident should not be given more weight than protest event, so it has be very briefly mentioned compared to protest event. Also Venkat TL is right that this page is primarily a City/Village page, and no event or incident should have details on this page. So, very brief mention should be the consensus. Dhy.rjw (talk) 22:25, 16 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Dhy.rjw What is that brief 1 sentence you are proposing to add? Venkat TL (talk) 06:46, 17 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Helllo Venkat TL Thanks for your message for building consensus. I would suggest to add 1 sentence as below with relevant WP:RS references.

Meanwhile in October 2021, this site again gained national attention for a widely reported brutal lynching incident. ^[1] Dhy.rjw (talk) 09:15, 17 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ "At Singhu protest site, man tied to barricade, arm chopped off and lynched; police probe role of Nihang Sikhs". The Indian Express. 2021-10-16. Retrieved 2021-10-16.{{cite web}}: CS1 maint: url-status (link)

Thanks. Why add the word "again"? It is in the news continuously. Venkat TL (talk) 09:18, 17 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Referring to the following part, "...site again gained national attention for a widely reported...". This is not explicitly verifiable from the citation that you have provided. This article isn't for listing every occurrence based on breaking news reports that happens to have taken place at the location. Tayi Arajakate _Talk 09:36, 17 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

[1] "At Singhu protest site, man tied to barricade, arm chopped off and lynched; police probe role of Nihang Sikhs". The Indian Express. 2021-10-16. Retrieved 2021-10-16.{{cite web}}: CS1 maint: url-status (link)

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