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Why to talk about USA inside attitudes

What the americans speek between them: here in Wikipedia — Preceding unsigned comment added by 137.163.19.99 (talk) 07:23, 28 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Is it the right flag for the 2nd E.T. Republic? Just wondering ... [Uighur]

Data

Could we have some approximate data to gauge the importance of this country? Population, extension, economic data? --84.20.17.84 10:40, 12 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It would frankly seem impossible to acquire demographics data for an unrecognized state that existed only for a few years, especially one that was founded before modern census techniques. That, however, does not in itself make the state non-notable. 66.117.145.231 (talk) 06:55, 8 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

MERGE with Three districts rebellion

This article is the same subject as the Three districts rebellion. Both have good coverage, and the choice of titles is political (pro or anti CHina: rebellion is minor, republic is something serious.) But let's have the articles together please!!? sorry cannot log in right now... 130.238.65.52 (talk) 08:36, 25 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, that should read Ili Rebellion for the English page to merge with, but in the first line of that article it then uses the Chinese "three districts" (san qu) rebellion. 130.238.65.52 (talk) 08:39, 25 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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@Beshogur: , :@Qiushufang: These are my sources, I can't insert a footnote in the infobox. [1][2] Swiãtopôłk (talk) 23:07, 11 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Do you have other reliable sources? Beshogur (talk) 16:18, 12 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Failed verification in lead and infobox

Per MOS:LEAD and MOS:INFOBOXPURPOSE, content in both spaces must correspond with reliably sourced information in the article body. However, multiple claims in the lead and infobox regarding the ETR's structure are unsourced or unmentioned in the article body.

The dates listed in the infobox are the most egregious issue. Only the supposed date of the ETR's dissolution, corresponding with the incorporation of Xinjiang into China on 22 December 1949, is mentioned in the article body, but that sentence is not sourced. This is an issue because the date is also not mentioned or sourced in the article body of Incorporation of Xinjiang into the People's Republic of China. All other dates listed in the infobox and lead (of this article) are not mentioned at all.

A 2013 book on the ETR by scholar Wang Ke is heavily cited by sources referenced in this article, as well as in this article itself, because Wang gives an analysis from the ETR's perspective using almost exclusively material produced by the ETR and its leaders.^[1] In his book, the de jure dissolution of the ETR is given as 1946, but the three districts that were under its jurisdiction retained a level of autonomy separate from the rest of the Republic of China's "Xinjiang Province". Thus, the current date of 1949 is at best needing of a huge asterisk attached, and at worst inaccurate. Where the date fits on the spectrum of inaccuracy could have been determine if the editors from over a decade ago cited their sources properly. Without those sources, however, the accuracy of some of the introductory content in this article is questionable, to put it lightly. Yue🌙 21:51, 1 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ Wang, Ke (15 March 2020). The East Turkestan Independence Movement, 1930s to 1940s. Translated by Fletcher, Carissa. The Chinese University of Hong Kong Press. ISBN 978-962-996-769-7.

Wrong data input and misinformation

It appears some people change the data and cause misharmony between the Wikipedia pages. I‘d like to ask an admin for a view into the different Wikipedia pages to prove the data in English don’t align to the data in any other pages than Chinese only(?) KzUy (talk) 10:58, 25 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

We don't care what other language Wikipedias say, and they shouldn't care what we say. We have our own sourcing standards, and you're required to respect them. You said in your edit summary that there are sources, how about you post them here so we can see them instead of just promising they exist while adding effectively unsourced contradictory info to the article—and perhaps explain the discrepancy with the sources already cited that give 1946? Remsense ‥ 论 11:00, 25 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@KzUy also, I recommend reading @Yue's post above before replying or making further edits. Remsense ‥ 论 11:21, 25 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

[1] Wang, Ke (15 March 2020). The East Turkestan Independence Movement, 1930s to 1940s. Translated by Fletcher, Carissa. The Chinese University of Hong Kong Press. ISBN 978-962-996-769-7.

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