Talk:Sayer Ji

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Don't hesitate to improve the page! There are of course hundreds of news media articles naming him as one of the "Disinformation dozen". I chose to reference only the original research report and one news article. Robincantin (talk) 02:40, 20 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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@Robincantin: you reverted the above version, asking for sources to the contrary. There were two statements of Ji's that I mentioned:

his belief that cell lines require constant supply of aborted fetal matter, and
his belief that the vaccines are some sort of transhumanist agenda.

It's hard to find something to contradict the latter, as it's difficult to prove a negative.

With regard to the former, this is so trivially false that nobody really bothers to even explicitly say so. This chapter from Alberts, Johnson and Lewis, pretty much one of the most commonly used cell biology textbooks, explains culture in some detail. By way of negation, if what cell lines need is just media, then they don't need additional cellular matter. I will try to find a more overt 'no' somewhere.

Thanks for making this article!

@Ari T. Benchaim:, I'm not sure it's useful to go through Ji's article on his website and find references showing what he says isn't true. That doesn't show the statement is notable, and that would still reference greenmedinfo, which is definitely not a credible source. My approach for these types has been to watch mentions in the media and other publications. Robincantin (talk) 03:19, 8 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

This being said, thank you for bringing this to the Talk page. If others disagree with my take on this, they'll let us know. Don't forget to sign your posts ;) Robincantin (talk) 03:22, 8 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Robincantin: Fair point! Happy to take your guidance on this. Ari T. Benchaim (talk) 05:37, 8 July 2021 (UTC) (officially the worst at signing posts)[reply]