Talk:Santhosh Pandit
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[edit]Good effort. I'm glad that this page has been created. I've created a similar page back in August and some people teamed up to delete it. anyway now after release of his movie there's enough reliable evideance and no one can delete this off simply they don't like him. But they should always remeber an article is an info about something or someone eventhough it's not always good things Gopaalan 13:42, 25 October 2011 (UTC)
- Don't get emotional. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia and here we have rules on articles. For this article Wikipedia:BLP applies. Santhosh Pandit was not notable at that time, but now he is. This article will stay. I appreciate your patience. Wish you happy editing. --Sreejith K (talk) 14:30, 25 October 2011 (UTC)
- I agree with Sreejithk2000. Wikipedians doesn't delete articles just because we don't like or dislike someone. The factors of inclusion depends on our core policies of Notability, Verifiability by Reliable Sources. I had originally proposed Santhosh Pandit for deletion earlier, when he was not notable then. IMHO, He may be marginally notable by Wikipedia standards. If the admin who blocked the page creation ( User:Kinu ) or some other admins feel so, this block may be removed and redirect this article to Santhosh Pandit. Although I am an admin, I will leave it for the judgement of another admin. -- Tinu Cherian - 14:51, 25 October 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks Kinu -- Tinu Cherian - 06:04, 26 October 2011 (UTC)
- I feel there is sufficient notability to retain the article now. Notability will be good once an article is created for Jithu Bhai with enough reference links. But the biography section is still almost empty. This should be built with enough references.
Anish Viswa 15:01, 25 October 2011 (UTC)
- I agree with Sreejithk2000. Wikipedians doesn't delete articles just because we don't like or dislike someone. The factors of inclusion depends on our core policies of Notability, Verifiability by Reliable Sources. I had originally proposed Santhosh Pandit for deletion earlier, when he was not notable then. IMHO, He may be marginally notable by Wikipedia standards. If the admin who blocked the page creation ( User:Kinu ) or some other admins feel so, this block may be removed and redirect this article to Santhosh Pandit. Although I am an admin, I will leave it for the judgement of another admin. -- Tinu Cherian - 14:51, 25 October 2011 (UTC)
Someone deleting entries due to jealousy towards Santhosh Pandit. The following lines were removed 2 times. "Some major newspapers and channels of India published news articles about Santhos Pandit and his movie 'Krishnanum Radhayum". This is a fact and it is supported by references. If anybody is going to delete, please give valid reasons for deletion. Byal,Bangalore October 25, 2011. 3:52pm (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Byal (talk • contribs)
- As I had explained earlier, we don't delete article based on jealousy , hatred or dislike. Articles are allowed on subjects on Wikipedia based on our Notability guidelines. The article is much below standards, I request someone interested to improve it. -- Tinu Cherian - 06:17, 26 October 2011 (UTC)
- The statement Some major newspapers and channels of India published news articles about Santhos Pandit and his movie 'Krishnanum Radhayum". is totally unneeded. Please include the needed valid points of the news article here, but not a statement that yes, he was covered by news papers picturised in TV and radio. That does not help the reader in anyway. --Sreejith K (talk) 07:17, 27 October 2011 (UTC)
- As I had explained earlier, we don't delete article based on jealousy , hatred or dislike. Articles are allowed on subjects on Wikipedia based on our Notability guidelines. The article is much below standards, I request someone interested to improve it. -- Tinu Cherian - 06:17, 26 October 2011 (UTC)
Edit request from , 30 October 2011
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Some information about santhosh pandit is completely wrong. The last edited person is not added anything yet. Shidhincr (talk) 13:22, 30 October 2011 (UTC)
- Not done You have not specified any change to be made to the article. Please, if you have correct information about Santhosh, make an edit request with that information and a reliable source from which it can be verified. Zidanie5 (talk) 03:37, 31 October 2011 (UTC)
Edit request from , 30 October 2011
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Change Santhosh Pandit to Santhosh Pandit(Actor) as he was an actor in Malayalam film industry and his debut attempt was talked, appreciated and criticized in Kerala through the social networking sites and electronic and print media. Don't delete this page Shobinjoseph (talk) 17:37, 30 October 2011 (UTC)
- Not done The field of activity in brackets is usually displayed in order to disambiguate different people with the same name. Unless there is another article named Santhosh Pandit there is no need to add (actor) in the article's name. The occupation is mentioned in the lead section, it's enough to inform the readers. Zidanie5 (talk) 03:34, 31 October 2011 (UTC)
What is the reson for deletion?
[edit]Currently, this article is being considered for deletion. Please specify what is the reason for deletion. Wikipedia clearly mentions the criteria for deletion? Please spend 2 minutes to read http://en.wiki.x.io/wiki/Wikipedia:Biographies_of_living_persons. Then kindly give a valid reason for deletion. Please do not use Wikipedia for personal interests — Preceding unsigned comment added by Byal (talk • contribs) 08:14, 31 October 2011 (UTC)
- Removed the Afd tag because the nomination was incomplete. If anyone nominates the article for deletion again, please make sure that the request is complete. --Sreejith K (talk) 08:43, 31 October 2011 (UTC)
Edit request from , 1 November 2011
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59.97.25.99 (talk) 07:56, 1 November 2011 (UTC)
More about Santhosh Panditji: http://wwwambareeshymc.blogspot.com/2011/10/santhosh-pandit-gods-own-man.html
- Not done: I assume you wanted that put in the External Links section. Clicking on that link took me to a blog that didn't exist. Additionally, links to blogs are generally to be avoided. If I am mistaken as to your intents here, please clarify, but blogs are generally not linked to as either external links or as references, because they can be written by anyone. Hope this helps, Steven Zhang The clock is ticking.... 09:02, 1 November 2011 (UTC)
- Fixed link. But the decision was right. It was a blog entry and it does not have anything relevant to be included in this page. --Sreejith K (talk) 19:14, 1 November 2011 (UTC)
Edit request from , 1 November 2011
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202.164.150.75 (talk) 19:49, 1 November 2011 (UTC)santosh is divorced
- Not done: Do you have a source for this edit? --Jnorton7558 (talk) 22:50, 1 November 2011 (UTC)
Do not nominate for Deletion, Notability clearly established
[edit]Santhosh Pandit is clearly a well known notable person. Type in Google nearly 5 million hits proves his clear notability. He may have established notability through negative publicities. (I am writing from Australia [119.12.156.218]. I did not know this person until someone throws rotten eggs and tomatoes on him.) However that does not warrant an article to be deleted. Additionally, I see that well known Kerala newspaper Malayala Maonorama has published heaps of articles about him. He also got lots of money from youtube and recently been awarded for his performance. So we could talk more and more about this guy. 119.12.156.218 (talk) 05:50, 13 November 2011 (UTC)
Website
[edit]Someone verify the website, i dont think its a official one. So many site are there for the traffic only.. Rahulpattuvam talk 16:34, 13 November 2011 (UTC)
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www.santoshpanditofficial.com
Nishasushant (talk) 19:55, 13 November 2011 (UTC)
Not done: please be more specific about what needs to be changed. --Ella Plantagenet (talk) 00:28, 14 November 2011 (UTC)
- Only the url says that the website is the official website of Santhosh Pandit. It looks like the website is trying to cash in the popularity of Santhosh. Wikipedia is not a url collection website, so this url need not be added to the page. --Sreejith K (talk) 04:42, 14 November 2011 (UTC)
- I too think the same, remove url asap. Or it will become other viral hit - Rahulpattuvam talk 05:46, 17 November 2011 (UTC)
How can wikipedia remove the article about a person who was only second to facebook in google trends on nov 5th 2011 and searched in google from 5 different countries with the country of his birth coming only fifth in the list,I find it very strange.I think since he is a new phenomenon and was relatively unknown till now authentic sources of information will take time to come.
Contested deletion
[edit]This page should not be speedily deleted because... (he is as or more notable than Vinayan, Mohanlal etc ) --Peopledowhattheyoughttodo (talk) 16:56, 22 November 2011 (UTC)
Contested deletion
[edit]This page should not be speedily deleted because... (The topic covered is a phenomenal success in the Indian state of Kerala. you may modify it. But please do not delete it) --122.169.124.134 (talk) 17:53, 22 November 2011 (UTC)
Contested deletion
[edit]This page should not be speedily deleted because... (your reason here) --183.83.179.91 (talk) 18:20, 22 November 2011 (UTC)
this is not true. his film is not capable of winning any award. in fact it is a disaster.
Santosh Pandit's page should not be deleted... In future he is going to achieve Guinness Record too.. so be kool, also even his name is deleted from wikipedia, no worries, He will be a Real Hero... coz we are not sure of Wikipedia's safe survival a head, coz of Donation appeal ideas from Wikipedia.
Shame to all, those who cant digest a man to see winning... He is a descent man with positive attitude, he tried his level best to make a movie without any professional knowledge. Only with Indian currency or Rs. 5 Lakh... and that movie was a hit, by any means...
He is an intelligent person, he already proved it... Its true that, he is not that much handsome, he also admit that... but we should encourage him.
Even Super Star Amitabh's too struggled a lot in the earlier stage... ;-)
Criticizer mind it : Those who do not SURPRISE on Good things, will never make anything to Surprise Others ;-)
Best wishes Santosh Pandit.. Carry on...!!!
Contested deletion
[edit]This page should not be speedily deleted because... (your reason here) --86.99.222.95 (talk) 19:32, 22 November 2011 (UTC) this guy does not deserve to be in wikipedia. he is an infamous actor known for his utter poor skills! please delete his page asap! thanks
Contested deletion
[edit]This page should not be speedily deleted because... (your reason here) --83.96.64.93 (talk) 21:02, 22 November 2011 (UTC)
prson is very bad mentality .. he is doing all this for getting undue attention
Contested deletion
[edit]This page should not be speedily deleted because...
I have listed the argument of the deletion proposer and my counter arguments below:
Austria156: This article may have been previously nominated for deletion: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Santhosh Pandit exists.
My argument against: Previous nomination for deletion was before his movie release which is the major event that gave him the notability.
Austria156: Subject notable only for one event.
My argument against: He is the major player in that major event which gives him notability. The fact that the event is major is evident from:
- He tops all celebrated Malayalam movie stars (like Mohanlal and Mammootty) in Google searches for more than a month: http://www.google.co.in/trends?q=santhosh+pandit%2C+mohanlal%2C+mammootty&date=mtd&sort=0 (that too for a wide margin)
- All major newspapers and channels covered him widely and individually. Examples:
Austria156: That too the event was a film, produced, written, directed and acted-in by the very person who himself leased theatres to screen it as well.
My argument against) Notability in the movie industry is not a reason for deletion.
Austria156: Fame built-up through deliberate infamy.
My argument against) Being infamous is also not a reason for deletion.
User:Austria156: But I dont think the encyclopedia built and nurtured by the people of the world is the right place for this.
My argument against: This en.wikipedia reviewer is being elitist here. Wikipedia hosts entries for Al Capone, Hitler and Nathuram Godse as well.
--Cibu (talk) 21:49, 22 November 2011 (UTC)
Please do not speedy this page
[edit]Dead admins and deletion taggers, Please do not speedy this page via CSD G4. The last deletion discussion happened in July. Since then the subject has released a movie and has been given widespread media coverage. Hence take the article to AfD rather than using CSD G4 or A7 -- Raziman T V (talk) 05:45, 23 November 2011 (UTC)
Vehemently oppose Deletion or Speedy Deletion
[edit]Santhosh Pandit has made enough newsworthiness and history by daring to stir whirlpools in one of the significant language portfolio of Indian film industry (Malayalam) at a time that portfolio itself faces threats to its successful and economic survival. By going through unconventional steps and measures he has opened the eyes of mainstream movie makers and artists forcing them to retrospect their own perceptions of quality and acceptability.
The acts of this person is sure to become a historical landmark of Malayalam movie industry. Even the corroboration about deletion of this article would go a long way in the history of Wikipedia as what constitutes useful and relevant information in an encyclopedia as far as an average Keralite or Malayalee is concerned. ViswaPrabha വിശ്വപ്രഭ (talk) 15:11, 23 November 2011 (UTC)
--- Response removed by author (Austria156) owing to the following community guidance. ---
- Wikipedia is not a social forum. Please discuss these in your blog or facebook. Please stick to the details that should be part of the article. --Cibu (talk) 16:05, 23 November 2011 (UTC)
- Cibu ++1 ViswaPrabha വിശ്വപ്രഭ (talk) 16:52, 23 November 2011 (UTC)
- Absolutely. Well said Cibu. Austria156, I cannot believe that you said that with this amount of experience in Wikipedia. --Sreejith K (talk) 17:36, 23 November 2011 (UTC)
Contested deletion
[edit]This page should not be speedily deleted because... (your reason here) --149.156.110.250 (talk) 17:35, 24 November 2011 (UTC) I think a lot of contestants of Big Boss and other reality shows have managed a place in Wiki for similar fame like Santhosh Pandit. Then why not Santhosh Pandit ?
A bunch of jealous people who want to erase this page.... shame on you.....
Why Santhosh Pandit is famous?
[edit]This ibn article may help you. The article is not talking about the quality of SP's movies. But the howling and abuses created by audience helped the movie and SP so famous, yes the bad and negative publicity helped him so much a notable person. 119.12.156.218 (talk) 07:24, 1 December 2011 (UTC)
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All references to Santosh Pandit on this wikipage should be replaced with Santhosh Pandit, which is the correct spelling of the personality described in this wikipage. The other name Santosh Pandit does not related to Santhosh Pandit and you may like to add a disambiguation notice as well. Thank you. Cyberian-london (talk) 13:29, 1 August 2020 (UTC)
- We don't alter the spelling sources use in their title. – Thjarkur (talk) 16:00, 1 August 2020 (UTC)
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2023 StanleyJr33 (talk) 07:13, 29 September 2023 (UTC)
- Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. — Paper9oll (🔔 • 📝) 10:16, 29 September 2023 (UTC)
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