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Al-Shabaab samosa snack ban
[edit]Two anonymous IPs and one account have been attempting to add material suggesting that the Islamist group Al-Shabaab (which is waging war against the federal government in Somalia) has banned samosas throughout the country. This is problematic for a number of reasons. For one thing, Al-Shabaab does not control all of the country; it only controls parts of the south, and is losing territory by the week. Secondly, this is just the latest in a series of ever-changing draconian edicts that the group is known for. Thirdly, the material is already cited on the Al-Shabaab article alongside all of the group's other draconian edicts. Fourthly, group members imposed a samosa snack ban on only one town (Afgooye) and one village (Elasha Biyaha) that it controls in the south, not the entire country; they couldn't do that even if they had wanted to (c.f. [1], [2], [3]). As such, the material clearly fails:
- WP:EFFECT since "a precedent or catalyst for anything else of lasting significance is likely to be notable", which this samosa snack ban has not served as.
- WP:PERSISTENCE since "notable events usually receive coverage beyond a relatively short news cycle", something which this shock news item of course hasn't either. Likewise, "events that are only covered in sources published during or immediately after an event, without further analysis or discussion, are likely not suitable for an encyclopedia article."
- WP:GEOSCOPE since "notable events usually have significant impact over a wide region, domain, or widespread societal group", whereas this samosa snack ban has only been imposed in two small towns in southern Somalia.
Per WP:EVENT, "routine kinds of news events (including most crimes, accidents, deaths, celebrity or political news, "shock" news, stories lacking lasting value such as "water cooler stories," and viral phenomena) - whether or not tragic or widely reported at the time - are usually not notable unless something further gives them additional enduring significance." Wikipedia is also "not an indiscriminate collection of information or a news service. Wikinews offers a place where editors can document current news events, but not every incident that gains media coverage will have or should have a Wikipedia article." Middayexpress (talk) 20:10, 31 July 2011 (UTC)
hebrew articles
[edit]Why are there two hebrew articles for "Samosa"? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.127.89.46 (talk) 06:15, 6 June 2012 (UTC)
not kyrgyz national food
[edit]it's not Kyrgyz national food, i think it's uzbek, uyghur and tajik food. I'm from Kyrgyzstan--158.181.133.198 (talk) 23:37, 6 July 2015 (UTC)
Why not merge "Etymology" and "Name variation"?
[edit]EOM. 74.70.103.82 (talk) 17:28, 3 April 2016 (UTC)
What does "sanbosag" (the Persian origin word) mean?
[edit]The "Etymology" section says that the word "samosa" can be traced to the Persian "sanbosag". What does "sanbosag" mean? Mksword (talk) 19:28, 24 June 2016 (UTC)
Crispy Wrapping Dough
[edit]There is a crispy variant of the dough, especially in South India which uses wheat flour with white flour in 1:2 ratio with oil. I am not adding it as an entry because cant find the recipe used to buy them for 3.50 Rs during lunch time and back home for 10 Rs with simple ingredients cooked to a savory filling.
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Retain "samosa" and redirect all others
[edit]As per the wikipedia guidelines, remove all variations of the name and retain only the most popular name "samosa" and create redirects here from other name spaces. Thanks. 18:24, 16 November 2018 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 222.164.212.168 (talk)
the meaning of the name
[edit]hi, Did anyone track a decent paper describing the meaning of the name "Sambusak", where did it come from? What is the meaning of the name in old (middle) Persian ?
I couldn't find it in the article
Thanks, Ophir. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ophirmaor (talk • contribs) 11:13, 1 December 2018 (UTC)
middle eastern/central asian sambosak vs indian samosa
[edit]i think there is a big misconception, the original samosas from middle east were not triangular and not deep fried, they were baked, where as the samosas or dumplings in the indian subcontinent were deep fried, i think that indian samosas inspite of sharing same name are altogether different from sombosa of the middle east. comparing uzbek samsa to indian samosa is really funny because uzbek samsa is backed in the tandoor oven and its shape is totally different. baking the dough gets a totally different taste and dish than deep frying it.
Central Asian samsa were introduced to the Indian subcontinent in the 13th or 14th century by traders from Central Asia.[5] Amir Khusro (1253–1325), a scholar and the royal poet of the Delhi Sultanate, wrote in around 1300 CE that the princes and nobles enjoyed the "samosa prepared from meat, ghee, onion, and so on".[10] Ibn Battuta, a 14th-century traveler and explorer, describes a meal at the court of Muhammad bin Tughluq, where the samushak or sambusak, a small pie stuffed with minced meat, almonds, pistachios, walnuts, and spices, was served before the third course, of pulao.
mention of pie by ibn e batuta shows that sabosak from central asia was an entirely different dish which was baked rather than fried which was called sambusak, where as the earlier account from dehli sultanate mentions ghee which means deep fried traditional indian samosa.
60.54.13.118 (talk) 03:25, 17 January 2019 (UTC)
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