Talk:Saanich dialect

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Requested move

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the debate was move. —Nightst a llion (?) 09:36, 29 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Saanich (language) → Saanich (linguistics) … Rationale: Was here before User:Chimerical05 moved it with the comment "It's a particular language." Where there's dispute over whether something is a dialect or a language, the preferred neutral page name seems to be [[X (linguistics)]], e.g. Wu (linguistics), Scanian (linguistics). --Ptcamn 23:48, 24 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Survey

Add *Support or *Oppose followed by an optional one-sentence explanation, then sign your opinion with ~~~~

Oppose: Saanich is not a linguistics but a language. Thumbelina 17:42, 25 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

John Smith (comics) is not a comic, John Smith (BBC) is not a broadcasting corporation, John Smith (1781-1854) is not a 73-year period, John Smith (New York) is not a city, and Saanich (language) is giving preference to a POV that's not supported by linguists. --Ptcamn 23:16, 25 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Support Either Saanich language, which does not appear to be consensus, or Saanich (linguistics), as in the nominator's examples. Septentrionalis 03:02, 26 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nomination. AjaxSmack 08:03, 29 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nom. Ptcamn 08:07, 29 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge with North Straits Salish language

Merge discussion is located at Talk:North Straits Salish language.Skookum1 (talk) 23:07, 25 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Namechange redux

See Talk:Lummi Salish#Undiscussed namechange redux. This should have been simply Saanich language as per other "dialects" and also per usual Wiki naming conventions. The title should say what this is, and coule easiliy be interpreted to mean the Salishan tribes of the Saanich area, rather than a language; "Salish" is not a language name, and "Salishan" is the group.Skookum1 (talk) 13:31, 26 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

WSANEC?

Is WSANEC the name of the people, then, rather than the language SENCOTEN?Skookum1 (talk) 16:34, 13 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Does Saanich have /u/?

The vowels table says no; the example CEPU below the consonants says yes; the orthography section isn't sure (<U> /ǝw u/ -- does this mean [u] is /ǝw/?). 4pq1injbok (talk) 04:48, 12 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Only in about a dozen foreign words. The description should be clearer now. kwami (talk) 08:26, 12 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The Letter É

I have seen the letter É in:

T̵X̲ÉT 'shove' (nonactual)	→	T̵ÉX̲T 'shoving' (actual)
ṮPÉX̲ 'scatter' (nonactual)	→	ṮÉPX̲ 'scattering' (actual)
ȾȽÉQ 'pinch' (nonactual)	→	ȾÉȽQ 'pinching' (actual)

But it does not exist in the actual alphabet.

A	Á	Ⱥ	B	C	Ć	Ȼ	D	E	H
/e/		/ej/	/pʼ/	/k̟/	/t͡ʃ/	/k̟ʷ/	/tʼ/	/ə/	/h/
I	Í	J	K	Ꝁ/K̵/₭	Ḵ	Ḱ	L	Ƚ	M
/i/	/ǝj/, /ɑj/	/t͡ʃʼ/	/k̠ʼ/	/k̠ʷʼ/	/k̠/	/k̠ʷ/	/l/, /lʼ/	/ɬ/	/m/, /mʼ/
N	Ṉ	O	P	Q	S	Ś	T	Ⱦ	Ṯ
/n/, /nʼ/	/ŋ/, /ŋʼ/	/ɑ/	/p/	/kʷʼ/	/s/	/ʃ/	/t/	/t͡s̪ʼ/	/tɬʼ/
Ŧ	U	W	W̲	X	X̲	Y	Z	s
/s̪/	/ǝw/, /u/	/w/	/xʷ/	/x̠/	/x̠ʷ/	/j/, /jʼ/	(?)	-/s/

OosakaNoOusama (talk) 07:43, 8 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Context

It should be stated in the lead that this is a North American language. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 31.87.4.79 (talk) 12:11, 15 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Rename page to "SENĆOŦEN"

The name SENĆOŦEN is used as the primary name of the language by the W̱SÁNEC School Board^[1] as well as sources outside the nation such as on the CRD's website^[2] and by CBC News.^[3] NuclearElevator (talk) 04:48, 29 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

References

T with Bar

This page says that the T - bar makes a sibilant fricative but the page about the T - bar itself says that Saanich T - bar makes a non-sibilant fricative. Muonium777 (talk) 06:38, 5 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

[1] ttps://wsanecschoolboard.ca/sencoten-language/

[2] ttps://www.crd.bc.ca/project/first-nations-relations/traditional-territories

[3] ttps://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/woman-representing-queen-learns-indigenous-language-to-decolonize-1.5162449

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