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Sept 2010 release date?
[edit]Where did this info come from? I haven't seen anything about a Sept 2010 release date for the single. Rather, the RIAA certifications database here shows a release date of March 14, 2011. Y2Kcrazyjoker4 (talk • contributions) 07:27, 31 December 2011 (UTC)
Owl Eyes cover
[edit]This album was covered by Owl Eyes, on Triple J's [Australian radio station] segment "Like a Version." Mark Foster, when appearing on Triple J, asked them to play her version instead of his (I have no source, I just heard it on the radio yesterday). http://www.abc.net.au/triplej/tomandalex/blog/s3240446.htm I didn't add anything to the main page because I'm not sure if cover versions recorded for Australian radio are important enough to include! Xenobea (talk) 03:00, 26 January 2012 (UTC)
Merging into Torches?
[edit]I find the proposal ridiculous - this song was number one in several countries, including number 3 in the US. The album has also charted, and sold 1 million copies worldwide. The song and the album very clearly meet the notability requirements for song/album articles. Y2Kcrazyjoker4 (talk • contributions) 00:46, 1 February 2012 (UTC)
- The song clearly meets notability requirements, based on the reasons given above. I'd like to see some reasoning from the user (ClaretAsh) who added the merge tag as to why the article should be merged. The same goes for the articles for the songs "Helena Beat", "Call It What You Want" and "Don't Stop (Color on the Walls)", all of which meet the notability guideline and have been suggested for merging. Holiday56 (talk) 10:13, 1 February 2012 (UTC)
- Well, I've found the user's reasoning on the Torches talk page: "I've proposed merging the single into the album article as they're not so over long to necessitate separate pages". My response: That's generally a pretty invalid reason to merge the articles. If that was an acceptable reason to warrant merging into the article for song's parent album, then all 38,452 Stub-class song articles should be merged. Stub-class articles which pass the notability criteria should not be merged, but should rather be given the opportunity to be kept for expansion and growth. Your reasoning definitely doesn't apply to the "Pumped Up Kicks" article, which is of very substantial length and contains enough sources to verify its information. Holiday56 (talk) 10:32, 1 February 2012 (UTC)
- For user ClaretAsh to suggest merging these articles into Torches is quite shocking, and frankly ludicrous, especially regarding Pumped Up Kicks. The articles clearly meet the notability guidlines listed at WP:NMUSIC. NYSMtalk page 14:06, 1 February 2012 (UTC)
- I've also contacted this user on their talk page for more reasoning. NYSMtalk page 14:09, 1 February 2012 (UTC)
- For user ClaretAsh to suggest merging these articles into Torches is quite shocking, and frankly ludicrous, especially regarding Pumped Up Kicks. The articles clearly meet the notability guidlines listed at WP:NMUSIC. NYSMtalk page 14:06, 1 February 2012 (UTC)
Legacy ?
[edit]Catchy tune, but does it really deserve a "Legacy" section ? wait a few years kids. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.142.149.179 (talk) 11:33, 5 February 2012 (UTC)
Redundant
[edit]This article is as almost as long as the article about the band. Seems ultra-redundant to have copy/pasted much of the band article onto this article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Autobahnsho (talk • contribs) 22:49, 18 February 2012 (UTC)
- The only section from which a lot of similar information is derived is the "Release/promotion" section, and that is because the success of the song was very much responsible for the band even being in the public eye. Y2Kcrazyjoker4 (talk • contributions) 06:12, 19 February 2012 (UTC)
- I agree with Y2kcrazyjoker4's reasoning, but Autobahnsho still has a point. Some of the band/writer bio details can be pruned from this article, without undermining its effectiveness in getting across how important the song was for this band's notability. For example, it mentions at least three times that Foster was working as a commercial jingle writer when this was written. This shouldn't be mentioned more than once, if at all, andnot in the lead section, since it's just biographical trivia. What a musician's day job was at any particular point is a matter for their bio article, if it's encyclopedic at all, which is rarely. — SMcCandlish Talk⇒ ɖ∘¿¤þ Contrib. 14:35, 6 June 2012 (UTC)
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Mr. Green Genes "influence"
[edit]Pumped Up Kicks seems to rip off the Zappa tune Mr. Green Genes, or Son of Mr. Green Genes. 213.149.61.226 (talk) 01:14, 19 January 2019 (UTC)
Grammar Edits...
[edit]@Y2kcrazyjoker4: Please stop pointlessly reverting edits such as these on the "Radio ban" section that only attempt to fix the repetitive grammar (why is the word "school shooting" being used twice in a row?) in the one sentence there. At the very least, I want to hear a reasonable explanation on why you keep doing this.Neateditor123 (talk) 02:22, 3 June 2019 (UTC)Neateditor123
"Other music video"
[edit]Some dude added a mention to a fan-made music video that gained a good amount of views a few years ago. I want to edit it out cuz I really don't think it's notable enough to mention, but I want to see what others thoughts on the matter were. Iirc, it's just a scene from a Netflix show "The OA" set to the song. MantleM (talk) 23:25, 13 February 2022 (UTC)
- @MantleM: If you meant this, I don't see why the hesitation. Unofficial videos, like everything else, should not be mentioned unless there is secondary coverage. I deleted it. --Muhandes (talk) 15:58, 14 February 2022 (UTC)
- Thx. Was mostly hesitant cuz I do remember the original upload having a good amount of views, and there are some fan-made music videos that are notable (IG: the fan-made video for Kids by MGMT that was published before the official one came out.) MantleM (talk) 17:17, 14 February 2022 (UTC)
Further coverage.
[edit]"Hildegarde von Blingen'", one of the progenitors of the Bardcore music style, did a version of this song, using Bardcore style (Medieval-ish) music and lyrics to match. It is a collaboration with her brother, "Friar Funk" and another Bardcore progenitor, "Cornelius Link"- the person who did the Medieval arrangement. These are professional musicians. As of this moment, there have been 9,088,087 views of her version.
FYI, the Chorus:
.........................
"All ye bully-rooks with your buskin boots
Best ye go, best ye go
Outrun my bow.
All ye bully-rooks with your buskin boots
Best ye go, best ye go, faster than mine arrow"
YouTube's Hildegarde is inspired by the 12th Century composer, Hildegarde von Bingin, whose music she also performs.
"Pumped Up Kicks (Bardcore | Medieval Style with Vocals - Original by Cornelius" - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRIfsFefatg
Thank you for your time, Wordreader (talk) 07:27, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
- Good grief - I misspelled " Hildegard von Blingin' " (note the apostrophe that is part of the name).
FYI --- "Buskin boots" = thick-soled boots worn by ancient soldiers, calf to knee length, closed back, open front with lacing, thick fabric or leather.
"Fyrd" = an Anglo-Saxon militia, originally small, local groups compelled by feudal lords as an obligatory service.
Again, thanks, Wordreader (talk) 08:55, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
Misinformation in quote
[edit]Foster wanted to "get inside the head of an isolated, psychotic kid".
Psychosis has nothing to do with violence. What was meant here? Can this be clarified? For example..
Foster wanted to "get inside the head of an isolated, psychotic kid". Psychosis, however, is not linked and actually rarely found in school shooters.
A reference to this backs up the latter claim.. https://www.columbiapsychiatry.org/news/new-findings-columbia-mass-murder-database The headline is "Data from Columbia Mass Murder Database reveal psychosis and other serious psychiatric illness absent in the majority of perpetrators". Ybllaw (talk) 19:29, 8 December 2024 (UTC)