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Supposed AEC quote

I tagged the following sentence found in the article as requiring a better source "The United States Atomic Energy Commission chairman announced that the Plowshares project was intended to "highlight the peaceful applications of nuclear explosive devices and thereby create a climate of world opinion that is more favorable to weapons development and tests".^[1]^{[unreliable source?]}^{[better source needed]}

The rationale for the tagging is that I followed the Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists reference and was given the run around in terms of finding the primary source for this supposed quote. The Bulletin reference cites yet another reference for the quote and then that ref supplies yet another without a primary source seemingly being at the end of this great chain of chinese whispers.

The quote therefore requires the primary source, from the AEC chairman. I don't think this is at all unreasonable, considering the importance of the issue.

31.200.187.124 (talk) 00:00, 5 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Replaced source with "Atoms for Peace and War, 1953-1961: Eisenhower and the Atomic Energy Commission" - https://books.google.com/books?id=0Cv_E3yLHG4C&pg=PA529 . The book starts the sentence with "As Strauss noted in February...". The preceding paragraph references the commission's "semiannual report to Congress in January 1958". Other mentions of Strauss making statements in Feb 1958 or hearings being held are on p 447, and 474 it seems. p.474's quotation: Senate Subcommittee of the Committee on Foreign Relations, Hearings on Control and Reduction of Armaments, Feb. 28-April 17, 1958, Washington: Government Printing Office, 1958) pp.1336-64. I can't find that available online. Unless someone can find it, looks like someone would need to go to the Library of Congress and pull up a physical copy of that to confirm the quote. Until then, what's the proper way to add this primary reference as the suspected reference?

BenHochstedler (talk) 17:32, 30 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ Charles Perrow (September/October 2013 vol. 69 no. 5). "Nuclear denial: From Hiroshima to Fukushima". Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists. {{cite web}}: Check date values in: |date= (help)

National Public German radio documentation about testing in Argentina

DEUTSCHLANDFUNK- The nuclear Plowshare - U.S. test trials despite the moratorium? http://www.gabyweber.com/dwnld/artikel/plowshareenglisch.pdf

Author: Gaby Weber, Editor: Karin Beindorff, First broadcast: Friday, 2nd September 2011, 7:15 p.m.

Author: I came to the "Project Plowshare" more or less by accident. Because for years, I was researching Nazi war criminal, Adolf Eichmann, and his last employer, Mercedes-Benz Argentina and I was beset by doubts about the official version of the Eichmann case more than 65 years after the end of World War II because the Eichmann files are still kept under wraps. That Klaus Barbie worked for the CIA and the German BND (Bundesnachrichtendienst) was finally told to the public. And even the Mossad admits to having employed the inventor of the mobile gas chambers, Walter Rauff. So why remains there so much secrecy in the Eichmann case? My research on his person and his crimes during the Second World War had reached an impasse. ... 213.152.162.79 (talk) 06:53, 8 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

PNE?

The acronym PNE is used several times in this article without ever being defined. 130.246.57.110 (talk) 14:34, 6 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. I defined it in the page's first use now as well as linking to the corresponding page. Kensai97 (talk) 22:59, 6 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

"Project Plowshare shows how something intended to improve national security can unwittingly do the opposite..."

The paragraph beginning with the above quote may be a reasonable opinion/argument, but it isn't a factual claim and shouldn't be in wikivoice. Is there a way to attribute this view or otherwise fix it? The cited source is not online and I'm not remotely qualified to make substantive edits to this article, but I really think it should be addressed. CAVincent (talk) 18:51, 23 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

[1] Charles Perrow (September/October 2013 vol. 69 no. 5). "Nuclear denial: From Hiroshima to Fukushima". Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists. {{cite web}}: Check date values in: |date= (help)

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