Talk:Power Belongs to the People

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Political alignment

@JorreZ: Please familiarize yourself with the concept of "reliable source". It can be left-wing or right-wing, as most sources are biased either way, but extreme fringe news like Deutsche Stimme are invalid. Even Finnish wiki considers Kansan Uutiset a reliable source. If you don't believe, see this Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Perennial_sources#Sources. For example, Al-Jazeera is considered reliable despite of pro-Palestinian and leftwing bias. Same with The Guardian and Huffington Post. You can have left-wing bias, but what you can't do is quote the party itself, as it is primary source. Edit: I also found a Keskipohjanmaa article which describes it as far-right, which should be a neutral enough source.

Consider it a sign of generosity that it is not described unequivocally as far-right. Have a nice day.RKT7789 (talk) 05:25, 16 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@JorreZ and RKT7789: I'm not entirely happy with the Kansan Uutiset ref (which I added) because it calls the party either "far-right" or "right-wing populist" without pinning down which. That's why I went with "right-wing". Some recent sources call it explicitly "right-wing populist" (Yle on 18 January) or "radical right-wing" (Yle on 28 January). – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 16:25, 5 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The party itself is trash, but so is the communist newspaper. So using the latter as a source on its direct political adversary is nonsensical.Salakuljettaja (talk) 17:36, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Like it or not, Kansan Uutiset is considered a reliable source on Wikipedia, and VKK is too insignificant to be a "direct political adversary" to anyone except similar parties vying for the same voters. Jah77 (talk) 10:56, 16 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Naming, membership

Currently the only source for the party having 4,000 members - a pretty huge number for such a recently formed party - is its own deputy leader, who may have a vested interest in inflating the numbers for PR reasons and therefore doesn't qualify as a reliable source. Since party membership records aren't public and there is no way to verify the claim, I think the membership figure should be removed from the infobox. It could be included in the article text, as long as it's made clear that this is merely the party's own claim.

Also, where did the English name "Power Belongs to the People" come from? Are there actual sources that refer to the party by such a name, or is it just somebody's own translation (which would effectively amount to original research)? Unless sources for an English name can be found, the article should be moved to its official Finnish name. Jah77 (talk) 11:13, 17 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]