Talk:Pie iron

Pronunciation

Does 'jaffle' rhyme with waffle? Ringuu 17:01, 13 Mar 2005 (UTC)

No, it is pronounced the way it is spelt, with a short "a" sound. DO'Neil 19:59, Mar 13, 2005 (UTC)

Rhymes with "Baffle". 110.33.230.30 (talk) 01:13, 7 May 2016 (UTC)

Recipes???

There should be some links to recipes.

The old reliables are best - ham 'n' cheese for example.

I highly recommend Herta frankfurters with cheddar cheese. Cut the frankfurters lengthwise, and use two per sandwich (cut the end thirds off and put alongside the other 2/3s).

One can also make an egg toastie - just crack an egg onto the bread, and ensure it is fully cooked before eating (this may require slightly longer toasting than usual). Good with cheese/ham also.

Finally, I have had it proved to me by an American that in an emergency (e.g. being in Ireland) one can cook waffles in a sandwich toaster. Make the usual batter, and simply put onto the hot plate. Ensure you don't use too much or cook for too little (the centre will be gooey if you do).

I don't think any of the above counts as encyclopaedic though.

zoney ♣ talk 19:19, 13 Mar 2005 (UTC)

A classic in my family were baked beans or cheese and tomato jaffles. --Gnarynhar (talk) 23:24, 5 November 2012 (UTC)

No, not encyclopedic, but recipes can be added to wikibooks: en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Cookbook:Toastie. —Pengo 00:39, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

Great article!

LOL! This type of article reminds me why Wikipedia is so great: thanks Zoney et al. Any chance of a photograph of the finished product? — Matt Crypto 20:38, 13 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Picture of closed sandwitch toaster

Do we really need a picture of the closed sadwich toater? --82.38.56.218 23:29, 9 November 2005 (UTC)

Merge Toasted sandwich

Toasted sandwich is mostly about sandwich toasters. The info provided not about sandwich toasters is minimal and obvious - a toasted sandwich is a sandwich that has been toasted, some restaurants toast sandwiches, toasted sandwiches can have different fillings. I suggest it be merged into this article.--Nonpareility 16:29, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

I did the merge the significant edit history from that article follows:--BirgitteSB 20:30, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

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Split toasted sandwich

A toasted sandwich is not a sandwich toaster. One is a food item and the other is a way of making the former. Simply south not SS, sorry 02:28, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

Names

Toastie Maker

Is it right that these are known as "Toastie Makers" in the UK? I live in the UK and I've never, ever heard them called that. "Toasted Sandwich Maker" is more like it, but not Toastie - any objections if I change it?

I am living in Japan, but I am British and have never heard of a toastie maker. I will change it.Sennen goroshi 11:26, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

Perhaps it depends on the region. Here in the southeast the sandwiches are generally called "toasties" and the applicances to make them "toastie makers".Daysy (talk) 14:24, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

Breville

Is it notable that the name 'Breville' is used by some to refer to a toasted sandwich? Only sandwiches made in a sandwich toaster - Not the ones that are made by toasting 2 slices of bread before preparing the sandwich. I've always know this type of sandwich as a 'Breville' and never knew that it was a company name until I saw this article. I'm from London, England. Is anyone else aware of this term being used? Zestos (talk) 14:15, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

The term is often used in Australia, as it is one of the main Breville appliances in the Australian home back in the 80's/90's. There has been no official push by Breville to take it's name away from the toasted item, like Xerox have in the past. 203.217.17.192 (talk) 04:42, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

In the 1991 "White Hole" episode of the British sitcom Red Dwarf, the talking toaster asks, "Would you like a cheese-and-ham ‘Breville’?". At the time I think the Breville company was known in the UK mainly for its toasted sandwich makers and was the market leader, but the Breville article doesn't even mention them. 78.33.10.10 (talk) 09:23, 24 August 2022 (UTC)

Toasted sandwiches in South Africa

It is interesting how the same thing is called differently in different cultures even ones using the same language. In South Africa the toasted sandwich is called a Snackwich and the machine a Snackwicher or Snackwich maker. I have never heard it called a breville in South Africa ? 41.246.180.64 (talk) 16:14, 16 July 2009 (UTC) The jaffle iron makes a round, not square sandwich.Daysy (talk) 14:22, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

So who calls it a Pie Iron?

The article lists several different names in different forms of English but where exactly is it called a Pie Iron or Pudgy Pie Iron? Are these US names? Looking on Amazon the only items that are given that name are the sort that are designed to be placed in a fire which to me isn't the same thing as the electrical appliance that is the main focus of the article. Feels like this entire article might be wrong, that is to say the content isn't actually about Pie Irons and we need separate article for Sandwich Toasters and rewrite this to be about Pie Irons or remove.213.114.169.236 (talk) 10:33, 20 April 2019 (UTC)

I concur, the "pie iron" appears to be be specifically the cast iron device designed to be used on a campfire and a U.S. concept that I would guess is mostly unfamiliar to British, Australian or New Zealand users of electric toasted sandwich/toastie/jaffle makers. Although they're conceptually similar I don't think they could be considered different names for the same thing. This entire article is fairly dubious, there are numerous references to different kinds of toasted sandwich and related foods that have nothing at all to do with either camp fire pie irons or kitchen appliances.2407:7000:A12B:8507:54A6:2DD8:94B5:B90 (talk) 01:42, 23 June 2020 (UTC)

Yes, it's the dreaded WP "all the world's America" syndrome at work again. I've never, ever heard an electric toasted sandwich maker referred to as a 'pie iron', and they would seem to be completely unrelated things. A misnamed and very messy article, though not untypical of WP food articles generally. --Ef80 (talk) 08:54, 4 June 2023 (UTC)

Merge article

Request to merge this article with http://nl.wiki.x.io/wiki/Tosti-ijzer . The subject is exactly the same, only language differs. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.84.201.174 (talk) 15:36, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

Not necessary. We don't merge articles that are on different language Wikipedias. Wikipedia actually aims to have the same articles in different languages, and translating into new languages is appreciated. If you wish to translate missing information from one language article to another, that's appreciated too. —Pengo 00:43, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

Some comments from Australia

First of all, it should be made clearer that the product traditionally made with irons on a stovetop or campfire is not really the same thing as a toasted sandwich. A toasted sandwich is usually just a sandwich that happens to be toasted, and as such contains two separate toasted slices of bread. A toastie, jaffle, or whatever you want to call it is distinguished by the fact that the two slices of bread are fused in the cooking process, creating a fully sealed pocket. Also, the latter typically contains a large amount of filling that does not fit inside most brands of electric toasted sandwich maker.

Sunbeam manufactures an electric product called the EasyClean™ Thick Snack jaffle maker. Page three of the instruction booklet states that "Extra deep 'jaffle-style' plates hold more filling than ordinary sandwich makers" and page four states that "Thick Snack seals the edges of the toasted sandwich." This booklet constitutes documentation verifying that a jaffle is a specific type of toasted sandwich, distinguished by the large quantity of filling and by the outer seal.

As for the names that the product is known by in Australia, jaffle is one such name (as the article says, and as the Sunbeam product confirms), but not the only one. I therefore think some clarification is desirable.

A popular brand of cooking irons in Australia was the toastie-toaster, for which archived promotional material shows that the manufacturer intended the name toastie-toaster to be understood as "a toaster of toasties" (i.e. toastie being the name of the bread product so produced). Note that both square and round toastie-toasters were produced. I cannot find any information about when the toastie-toaster was first manufactured or when it ceased to be manufactured, other than a Google Books result of what is probably the manufacturer's instruction booklet, which indicates it was published in the 1920s. In my personal experience as a resident of South Australia, however, the term toastie-toaster has become our word for the bread product. It is the term I was taught by my parents and have always used. (I would describe the metal device used to create them as a toastie-toaster maker or else a toastie-toaster iron.)

It would be interesting to learn more about the distribution of different names for the product in Australia. For example, perhaps the term jaffle is dominant on the east coast, with toastie or toastie-toaster having more prominence further west. Unfortunately, this information does not appear to be available online.

202.22.165.5 (talk) 11:54, 18 June 2012 (UTC)

I'm melbourne born and bred, learning the terms from melbourne family. I grew up familiar with an item with sealed edges being a jaffle (eg cheese jaffle) and a toasted sandwich being something you made under the oven grill (eg toasted cheese sandwich - often with only one layer of bread on the bottom). I was familiar with the term as that for both the cast iron "jaffle irons" for campfire or gas stove we had (ours were round not square, but I knew there were square ones) and for the electric equivalent. I've never heard the term 'breville' or 'toastie' for this item. I do hear toasted sandwich used for the electric sealed sides item these days, but didn't in the 80's and 90's - but I think few people still make grilled sandwiches these days which may account for the transfer of the term. I don't know that product labels ever used the term jaffle maker though. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.12.195.130 (talk) 07:40, 14 August 2012 (UTC)

I'm from Geelong, and we've always referred to the food item as a jaffle, and the device used to make them as a jaffle iron. (And same as the previous commenter, a toasted sandwich was something you made under the oven grill.) Gnarynhar (talk) 23:24, 5 November 2012 (UTC)

I am a New Zealander living in Sydney, and I can confirm that the terms 'Jaffle' and 'Breville', as perplexing as the may be, are in fact commonly used to describe toasties. On a side, I grew up in the South Island of New Zealand and to this day I still refer to Jaffles and Brevilles simply as 'Toastie Pies'. 203.51.102.208 (talk) 12:38, 3 February 2013 (UTC)

I'm from Sydney, born in the 80's and there is nothing dubious about the term Jaffles. We always referred to this food item this way as they were made using a jaffle iron. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.18.237.199 (talk • contribs) 03:25, 26 February 2013‎

I'm from Melbourne, born in the early 80's and I have never known this food item, that being a fully sealed bread pocket with fillings, as anything other than a jaffle. My mum and dad immigrated to Australia from Edinburgh, Scotland and Christchurch, New Zealand respectively and I learnt the term from them. I had never heard the terms 'toastie' or 'Breville' until reading this article. 124.170.13.75 (talk) 04:19, 11 May 2013 (UTC)

I'm from Sydney and my wife is from Maryborough Queensland and we both grew up calling them Breville's as that was probably the most popular brand available in Australia in the 70s and 80s. We now live in Wollongong and most people we know call them that as well, even when made with another brand jaffle maker. Libtekhed (talk) 01:40, 21 December 2016 (UTC)

So how did jaffle end up at "pie". Surely not even Americans think two slices of bread make a pie? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.45.213.30 (talk) 23:51, 12 January 2018 (UTC)

Jaffle inventor

Dr Ernest Eric Smithers. One could find enough about him that would pass Notable person.

• not WP:RS: "Ernest Eric Smithers (1901-1973)". wikitree.com. 1901. Retrieved 9 October 2024.

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