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just a quick note here...Max MSP appeared later (1997). What Manoury used was the original version of Max for the ISPW (IRCAM Signal Processing Workstation). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 31.55.4.121 (talk) 02:40, 1 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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I replaced the deprecated Persondata (unhelpful because invisible and known only to insiders) by an infobox. It was reverted, so I tried an identity box, following the example of Percy Grainger. How do others feel? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:09, 13 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I was the editor who reverted your addition. What, pray, is an "identity box"? I've never heard of this.—Jerome Kohl (talk) 08:32, 13 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
See WP:Infobox. There is no similar WP:identity box article. As Gerda Arendt (talk), there is an example of an identity box at Percy Grainger. I think we should use one or the other. I don't understand the edit summary that said the infobox was "full of errors." 7&6=thirteen () 11:41, 13 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Identitybox was a term created by Brianboulton (in 2013) for something like Percy Grainger has, linked above, - possibly better to look there than I could describe. It was intended to be a compromise and means basically to display the parameters we used to hide in persondata. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:09, 13 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
ps: He called it identibox, but on my 2013 talk it as discussed as identity box. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:15, 13 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I rather like the box at Percy Grainger, but the one here doesn't look anything like it, and is cluttered with details that could not occur in Persondata. Why is that? I find no mention of either "identity box" or "identibox" in the Infobox article, linked above. The erroneous data is plain to see in the infobox I reverted. One egregious example was the link to the List of compositions by György Kurtág (though for some reason this did not display, but appears only in edit mode). Manoury is not Kurtág, nor did he contribute to any of Kurtág's compositions.—Jerome Kohl (talk) 17:57, 13 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
The identi[ty]box is something I offered in between. - Please forgive me that in copying I first left a line ("work") which doesn't belong here. It was late. - If an infobox has a mistake, there's always the possibility of fixing the mistake, also to discuss individual parameters, rather than saying "It is better without." Perhaps compare Bach, Handel, Beethoven, on top of his teacher Max Deutsch who is the reason to improve articles linked from his, - see discussion on my talk. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:13, 13 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
If there is wrong information in the infobox, please fix it. 7&6=thirteen () 18:39, 13 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I did. You reverted my edit. Gerda subsequently removed the line to which I referred, but the box still looks horrible, and contains data of dubious utility. If an infobox is desirable (and Wikipedia guidelines clearly state that infoboxes are neither required nor prohibited—it is up to the editors working on each individual article to decide), why can it not be made to look like the on on Percy Grainger's article?—Jerome Kohl (talk) 20:00, 13 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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