Talk:Peter Medawar

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Peter was a first rate scientist.

Syrian, not Lebanese

Medawar was born years before Lebanon was founded. His father was therefore Syrian. (And I am Lebanese/Syrian, it's important.) — Preceding unsigned comment added by BooksXYZ (talk • contribs) 01:46, 9 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

correction

There is a minor correction to be made: Sir Peter Brian Medawar was born in Petrópolis, a small town in the mountains some 40 miles from Rio de Janeiro - actually he was born in a hospital that is a quarter of a mile from my own home.

Also, reference should be made to the fact that the Brazilian government cancelled his Brazilian citizenship around 1933 because he asked to be relieved from his compulsory military duties. There was considerable official embarrassment in 1960 when he was awarded the Nobel Prize; his citizenship was then restored and he received a Brazilian passport.

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BetacommandBot (talk) 19:57, 26 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Nationality

As the text now shows, with reference, Medawar was a British citizen from birth, and left Brazil at the age of three. There is no real basis for describing him as 'Brazilian'. Macdonald-ross (talk) 22:16, 18 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Macdonald-ross,

You don´t know anything about Medawar! He left Brazil at the age of fifteen and not three. Therefore, it´s just the term of "brazilian" in the article. He spoke portuguese and had the brazilian culture and only got the british citizenship for the sake of brazilian government, which wanted him in the Brazilian Army, even Medawar have asked to be relieved because he was studing in England. You don´t know anything about Medawar and about Brazil. Probably because my country is viewed, specially by europeans and americans, as a nation of stupids that have made nothing for the science, although brilliant brazilian scientists had (and even have) a great contribution for the science and for the mankind, even not wining the Nobel Prize, such as Cesar Lattes, Vital Brazil, Henrique da Rocha Lima, Mauricio Oscar da Rocha e Silva, Carlos Chagas, Mighel Nicolelis and others. 189.78.80.110 (talk) 21:06, 19 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

This scientist left Brazil at the age of 3 of 15. He was a kid! What could he have learned down there, at that age? All his knowledge was adquired at high school and college. I agree that Medawar should not be listed for Brazil. The same with writer Vargas Llosa, who is listed for Spain! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.23.5.73 (talk) 18:57, 18 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Alex Garland

Should / Can it be included here that Alex Garland (bestseller author and screenwriter) is one of his grandchildren (child of his daughter)? --82.146.103.18 (talk) 09:34, 20 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Medawar was a british but brazilian too

Peter Brian Medawar, indeed, was a brazilian, because he had the brazilian culture and spoke portuguese. If others scientists can have double citizenship, so the same goes to Medawar. Therefore, he created brotherhood with Brazil and his relatives live in Brasil, in Rio and Petrópolis, until today. 189.78.80.110 (talk) 21:18, 19 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Because his parents registered his birth as British at the British Embassy, it makes him British, and not any other nationality. This procedure is recognised diplomatically, and what you or anyone else may think is not relevant. Medawar's autobiogrphy gives the reliable reference, and should not be taken out of the article by people who don't like what it says. In particular, he did not have dual citizenship, since the registration of his birth was a deliberate act to establish his citizenship as British. Macdonald-ross (talk) 10:35, 27 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry for coming late to this discussion. Medawar was originally both Brazilian (registered in Petropolis) and British (registered in the British Embassy in Rio). In fact, for people born in Brazil (with the exception of the sons and daughters of representatives of foreign countries, e.g., ambassadors) the Brazilian citizenship is mandatory; therefore he had dual citizenship from birth until he (possibly) renounced the Brazilian one to avoid conscription (around 1933/4). It is not impossible to renounce the Brazilian citizenship for thousands of reasons. However, skipping the military service was not a reason the loss of citizenship. (Check the Brazilian constitution of that time, 1891, art 69-71.) There are reasons to the revocation of citizenship, but none related to the military service. Surely his citizenship was not cancelled by the Brazilian government, and the registration at the British embassy was a simple act to give the newborn two originary citizenships.

Therefore, instead of "renounced his citizenship by refusing military conscription" should be "renounced his citizenship to avoid military conscription". — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fabiochalub (talk • contribs) 17:45, 16 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

John Young

"John Young [probably the cricketer] was not a PhD either." The John Young referred to is most probably the zoologist J. Z. Young who Medawar worked with. TristramBrelstaff (talk) 20:40, 24 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Right. Corrected. Chhandama (talk) 04:35, 13 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Internal Contradiction in the Article

In the initial Summary section it says "and was a naturalised British citizen"

In the Education and early life section it says "His status as a British citizen was acquired at birth, as he said: "My birth was registered at the British Consulate in good time to acquire the status of 'natural-born British subject'."

I don't know which is correct, but, obviously it's got to be one or the other

DlronW (talk) 04:12, 16 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

A very good point noted. Chhandama (talk) 10:08, 16 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]