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Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 12 December 2024

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nagvanshi 43.251.92.228 (talk) 07:36, 12 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Cannolis (talk) 08:40, 12 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Pasi is kings

Pasi not a dalit cast 43.251.92.228 (talk) 07:38, 12 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Request to Remove Incorrect Label of "Untouchable" for Pasi Community

113.193.112.57 (talk) 05:04, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 31 December 2024

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Please change the current "Etymology" section, which states:

"According to William Crooke, the word Pashi derives from the Sanskrit word Pashika, a noose used by Pasi to climb and tap toddy, a drink obtained from palm trees. The tapping of toddy is the original occupation of the Pasi community. However, like other aspirational caste groups of India, Pasis have a myth of origin. They claim to originate from the sweat of Parshuram, an incarnation of Vishnu. They claim support for this in the word sweat being derived from the Hindi word Pasina."

to:

The name Pasi (Hindi: पासी) is derived from two interpretations. One explanation suggests that it is composed of two words, "Pa" (grip) and "Asi" (sword), implying "one who holds a sword in their hand," symbolizing a soldier.[1] Another etymology traces the name to the Sanskrit word *Pashika*, meaning "one who uses a noose." Historically, the Pasi community is said to have used nooses for climbing trees.[2]

References:

General, India Office of the Registrar (1974). *Census of India, 1971: Series 1. Monograph Series, Part 5, Ethnographic Study*. Controller of Publications.
Singh, Kumar Suresh; Bhanu, B. V.; India, Anthropological Survey of (2004). *Maharashtra*. Popular Prakashan. p. 1683. ISBN 978-81-7991-102-0.

Reason for the change:

The existing text lacks credible references or scholarly citations.
The claim that the Pasi community "originates from the sweat of Parshuram" is unscientific, discriminatory, and offensive. It indirectly stigmatizes the community by associating its origins with a baseless and derogatory concept.
Associating a community with such myths violates Wikipedia's policies on neutrality and verifiability. The proposed text provides a fact-based and respectful explanation supported by reliable sources.

Pasi community (talk) 06:15, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

change in some word

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Please revise the introduction of the "Pasi (caste)" article, which currently reads:

"The Pasi (also spelled Passi) is a Dalit (untouchable) community of India."

and change it to:

"The Pasi (also spelled Passi) is a community in India classified under the Scheduled Castes (SC) category. Historically marginalized, the Pasi community has faced social discrimination but is now protected under constitutional safeguards ensuring equality and dignity. The term 'untouchable' is outdated and has been abolished under Article 17 of the Indian Constitution."

Reason for the change:

**Untouchability is Abolished**: The term "untouchable" is legally incorrect and discriminatory. Article 17 of the Indian Constitution abolished untouchability, and its use is unconstitutional.
**Dalit is Not Synonymous with Untouchable**: The term "Dalit" refers to communities historically marginalized but does not imply "untouchable." It is a socio-political identity asserting dignity, rights, and legal equality.
**Historical Context**: While the Pasi community faced discrimination, using the term "untouchable" oversimplifies their complex identity and perpetuates harmful stereotypes. The Pasi community is recognized under the Scheduled Castes (SC) category for affirmative action and legal protection.

This change ensures accuracy, respects legal and social dignity, and aligns with modern constitutional values.

References to Support the Revision:

**Article 17, Constitution of India**: Abolished untouchability in all forms. (Government of India)
**K. S. Singh, People of India**: Describes the Pasi community, emphasizing their social and cultural identity.
**Ministry of Social Justice and Empowerment**: Lists the Pasi community as part of the Scheduled Castes for affirmative action benefits.

Thank you for considering this request. 1.22.81.253 (talk) 06:49, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{Edit semi-protected}} template. M.Bitton (talk) 00:38, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]