Talk:Ozzy Osbourne/Archive 2

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Citation of academic article

I have been trying to add a reference to the Controversy section of this Ozzy article. The reference in question directly relates to the issue of the controversial accusations leveled against Ozzy that he is a Satanist. The referenced article compares these accusations against Ozzy to those leveled against occultist Aleister Crowley, about whom Ozzy sang (Mr. Crowley). The referenced article further relates this comparison to prevailing Christian attitudes. This article is clearly of interest to readers and relates directly to the subject of Controversy, specifically relating to Satanism. Furthermore, the article in question is an academic article, published in an academic, peer-reviewed academic. Reasons for rejecting the addition have centered on the notability of the author, but I argue that it is not the author who is being cited here, specifically, but the issues raised in his article. Further, a Google search for the article finds at least one independent source citing this article as well. As an academic article of direct relation to the controversies surrounding Ozzy, I think it ought to be included in the Ozzy Osbourne article. The wording I have been trying to insert is quoted here, with link to the article in question:

"At least one scholar has compared the controversy surrounding Ozzy and accusations of Satanism to the reknowned occultist, Aleister Crowley, and how both were demonized by the media and the Christian Right for their antics. [1] "Wikigonish (talk) 20:20, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

Whether the source publication meets and sort of Wikipedia criteria makes no difference here. The article is composed by Christopher M. Moreman Ph.D. candidate who just happens to be..???... who??? with credentials to speak on the subject from where??? The aithor is an absolute unknown. It may as well have been written by John Q. Highschool-student. And the content itself that the link is trying to support doesn't really add anything constructive to the article at all. It's just the PH.D candidate trying to promote himself and using Wikipedia as his free soapbox to try and add as many links to himself as he can. These repeated contributions are actually worth reporting to Wikipedia Administration and to the WP:COI noticeboard so that any other links to this non-notable author trying to advertise himself on Wiki can be tracked down and removed. Libs (talk) 19:59, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

Firstly, the author in question is no longer a PhD candidate, but a professor of Religious Studies; the article is several years old obviously. A Google search of the author will turn up numerous other references in other areas, so this is not a PhD candidate advertising himself. So, if you are worried about credentials, the author has them because 1) he has a PhD, and was obviously working on it when he published this article, 2) the journal itself published the article, which means it was reviewed by academic editors and approved. Wiki libs and Anger22 have both accused me of a COI, but have not explained where the COI actually occurs. The article about Ozzy is relevant to the discussion of controversy; the article to I Am Legend is a legitimate review, which has now been acknowledged by a third party on that article's talk board. So, what is the problem here? Re-read the COI guidelines and you will see that there is no COI going on here. Furthermore, the argument against notability fails given the points mentioned above both in relation to the article being linked and the author himself.Wikigonish (talk) 20:12, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

Note: I have changed the wording in the article in order to better explain the significance of the link in question, as per Wikilibs' concern over the content of the Ozzy article that the link is meant to support. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wikigonish (talk • contribs) 20:21, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

Christopher, the COI occurs because you personally are linking yourself into Wikipedia. Regardless of your credentials posting your own opinion in the way that you are is gaming the system to try and self promote and soapbox yourself. That's where the COI issue is. Libs (talk) 21:46, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

That's what I figured was going on, but I wanted someone to come out and say it. Firstly, I'm not him. I know him, but I'm not him. Secondly, COI doesn't automatically invoke if one DOES cite one's self. Wikipedia guidelines allow for academics to cite themselves. In this case, I happen to be aware of the work by this particular academic and think that in the instances where I've referenced it, it is relevant. My argument against the COI is basically that there simply is no COI here because the references do not conflict with the interests of the Wikipedia encyclopedia intentions. Nobody is making any money or selling any product, nobody is advertising anything. All that is being cited are academic articles that are already out in the public sphere. Both articles I've referenced I found online, so there is no extra noteriety going on here.Wikigonish (talk) 22:06, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

"Occupation"

Ozzy is not a Singer-Songwriter. Singer, yes; songwriter, occasionally; singer-songwriter, definitely not. A singer-songwriter is somebody who composes and arranges the majority of one's work, while playing and singing it as well. Throughout his career Ozzy has contributed very little to the creative production of the material he sings. Both as a member of Black Sabbath and as a solo artist, he has relied on bandmembers to create the music and many of the lyrics. Perhaps most importantly, he does not play an instrument, which is pretty much required if one is to be categorized as a singer-songwriter. I changed "singer-songwriter" to "musician" as the latter is accurate, but it was reverted to the inaccurate label. Musician may not be the best label, and if someone can think of a better one then it should be used. But it is correct, whereas singer-songwriter is not, so it is preferable. I am going to change it back to musician once more, and urge anyone who wishes to undo it to consider exactly what a singer-songwriter is, because Ozzy is certainly not one. 69.249.55.6 (talk) 19:03, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

Musician is more inaccurate than Singer/songwriter, since Ozzy has only played an instrument on one track (he played the harmonica on 'The Wizard' on Black Sabbath's debut album), yet has written or co-written many more. Also, the idea that someone needs to be able to play an instrument to write a song is ludicrous. According to Geezer Butler, who wrote most of the lyrics for Black Sabbath, Ozzy came up with ALL the vocal melodies while in that band. On top of that, many of the claims that he did very little regarding the writing of songs comes from Bob Daisley, who's claims have been thrown out of court every time he raises them, since no one will corroborate his version of events. Calling him a songwriter is accurate.121.72.245.138 (talk) 13:38, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

Band lineups is a mess

I propose that it is removed, since it's just a bunch of people, no references, and most likely a copy/paste. Erzsébet Báthory_{(talk|contr.)} 16:51, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

I agree, and since nobody has disagreed, the material is unsourced and contravenes WP:NOT, it goes. --Rodhullandemu 16:31, 20 July 2008 (UTC)

I changed this because it looked awful.

I changed this-In August 2008, Osbourne stated on USA Today that he intends to retire from his music career after two more albums to make the most of life now he is turning 60 in December. I changed it to read-In August 2008, Osbourne stated in USA Today that he intends to retire from his music career after two more albums. I would think that he stated in USA Today,not on. And I took out the last bit because it was a run on sentence and it looked bad.--70.149.134.54 (talk) 02:29, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

No More Tears and Ozzy's retirement

I remember when No More Tears came out I heard on Seattle radio that if No More Tears didn't sell well, Ozzy Osbourne would retire. Because of this I think the album sold extremely well, so Ozzy never retired cause of it. I didn't see this in the article, so I wanted to get some clarification. 24.68.50.33 (talk) 23:47, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

What tenth album?

in the template there's a "Untitled tenth studio album", is that true or "it's just a prankster messing around"? (Deathmagnetic08 (talk) 17:04, 25 August 2008 (UTC))

Ozzy is supposedly going to release a new album. I didn't add it to the template, but I do remember mentions of it when he was on the Black Rain tour. Undead Warrior (talk) 11:16, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

wtf, you again? --Deathmagnetic08 (talk) 17:05, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

Don't start this again. I'm involved in most of the metal related articles so get used to it. I've done it for a long time. Undead Warrior (talk) 16:34, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

• A look at WP:CRYSTAL might be useful here. --Rodhullandemu 12:52, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Regarding associated acts

You can look at this in two ways. Ozzy as a solo person, or Ozzy as in the Ozzy Osbourne band. If this is indeed the Ozzy Osbourne band, then Pride & Glory and Black Label Society does belong on there, as they are both acts that has spun off due to inactivity in the band. Erzsébet Báthory_{(talk|contr.)} 09:56, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

So they're associated acts to Zakk Wylde. I see where you are coming from. But as a spin off those acts are side projects for one of Ozzy's hired hands... not Ozzy directly. The associated acts field is one of the most misundertstood fields in the box(origin is the one used incorrectly most of the time) The Megadeth article, because there have been so many band members, is always ripe with useless overkill and superfluity. And this page, similarly, because editors think of Ozzy's band rather than Ozzy himself, gets the same treatment. Bob Daisley has been in 6 or 7 different bands since he was fired by Ozzy. Are those bands associated acts because they never would've existed had Ozzy/Sharon been such money mongering arsewipes trying to screw Bob out of the money they owed him? The Real Libs-speak politely 12:48, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Inclusion in Guitar Hero: World Tour

Ozzy has been announced as a playable character (Singer) in the upcoming game, Guitar Hero: World Tour. Guitarhero.com and Youtube have released footage of Ozzy's motion capture (Mo-Cap) experience. He, his current lead Guitarist Zakk Wylde (Who is also a playable chacter, Guitar), original songs, Crazy Train and Mr. Crowley, and Ozzfest will be in the game. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 4.225.186.157 (talk) 21:16, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

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pants

Is he wearing the same pants, thirty-five years later?

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1973

2008

Obviously not, but just an interesting observation. 216.163.255.1 (talk) 14:04, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

Advert

Unimportant as it may be since Ozzy does alot of odd things here and there, I've only noticed him in the new World of Warcraft advert and it isn't noted anywhere on the internet, or at least Wiki.84.92.16.13 (talk) 14:03, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

hard rock

how is ozzy hard rock .Seth4000 (talk) 10:05, 20 January 2009 (UTC)Seth4000

Well, he was in Black Sabbath, & to quote Tony Iommi "I always considered us a heavy rock band... I don't know where Heavy Metal came from". One of the things you'll find with musicians is that they often define their music quite differently to what the public might... especially with the growing hundreds of sub genrés around these days. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.72.245.138 (talk) 14:23, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

Grammy

Why is there no mention of his Singles Grammy win? http://en.wiki.x.io/wiki/Grammy_Awards_of_1994

I see he is placed under the category of Grammy award winners but it is not mentioned anywhere in the article. Revrant (talk) 04:23, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

Added -J04n (talk) 16:27, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

Synthesizer?

The infobox lists synthesizer as one of his instuments. He is certainly not known for his synthesizer. Also, harmonica is listed, I can only think of one song that he plays harmonica, "The Wizard" and he recorded it 40 years ago and rarely ever played it in concert. Unless anyone makes a reasonable objection I will remove them. -J04n (talk) 00:26, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

Ozzy on Slash's solo album

Ozzy will sing on Slash's solo album. Source: http://www.metalunderground.com/news/details.cfm?newsid=40429

Ozzy will perform with Slash & Friends at Quart Festival in Norway on June 30th. It might be Ozzy's only show this year. Source (Norwegian newspaper): http://www.vg.no/rampelys/festivalsommeren/artikkel.php?artid=541877

I think this should be mentioned in Ozzy's article. 83.49.96.38 (talk) 19:13, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

Thank you for bringing it up on the talk page before editing the main page. There is already mention on the main page (under later solo career) of Ozzy colaborating with Slash, but it needs a reference and it looks like you found one. If you look on your talk page I added some great tips to help you get started on editing in Wikipedia. If you have any questions feel free to comment on my talk page and I'll try to help you out. J04n(talk page) 20:31, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

The Article Needs Help

The article could use better grammar, more citations and far less bias. In general, it could be better written. Much better written. Gingermint (talk) 21:38, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

I am the author of the Uncyclopedia version of Ozzy_Osbourne. I agree after reading the article with a ton of the comments and feedback on this page. I have spent several hours working the grammar, and removed the bias as best I can on quick glance. The only issue I left unresolved until I can fix this is that I think the article needs many more photographs of Ozzy, but there are not very many in the Commons area for him. I am gong to speak with Mark Weiss and ask if he will allow me to use some of his copywriten images for Ozzy's page, provided I give him the proper credit and indicate the copyright. I have a ton of articles and books on Ozzy, and can add content that's not quite so dry. F darkbladeus 15:14, 10 July 2010

Psychology

I was under the impression Ozzy was self-medicating, partly because of psychological issues. Schizophrenia perhaps? At any rate, if this is so it should be mentioned. Gingermint (talk) 21:38, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

bat

why no mention of the legend that he bit the head off of a bat? 86.16.153.191 (talk) 23:00, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

It's in this section. J04n(talk page) 23:09, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

better pic

ozzy looks different than that now. His hair in the current photo makes him look like somebody else. He should also have those glasses. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.176.126.29 (talk) 02:02, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

Voice Type

I'm not sure if his voice type should be listed. He goes well into the tenor range until his post-Ozzmosis career, hitting a High D on "Sabbath Bloody Sabbath", which is above the "standard" High C most tenors must hit to be qualified as such. However, he by no means has a classical-sounding voice, so operatic classifications may be null and void. Someone recently changed his range to "baritone", which I think would be a misnomer, since his voice didn't start to drop until his last two albums. Even Pavarotti stopped singing the big high notes when he was Ozzy's age, but he never lost the qualification of tenor. —Preceding unsigned comment added by JohannHenrik (talk • contribs) 18:21, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

I completely disagree with populating the "voice type" field for any non-classical vocalists. To my knowledge there are no verifiable references to support any voice type for any rock vocalists. The discussion to revert additions to this field for rockers is currently underway at the talk page for the infobox template. J04n(talk page) 18:30, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

Unless specifically mentioned in text and supported by cites (such as exampled in the article about Maria Carey), agree with J04n, in the vast majority of cases it makes no sense to have a voice type for such artists.--Alf ^melmac 21:14, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

I completely agree. I was just worried this would become a "voice type" minefield like it has for a lot of other rock vocalists.JohannHenrik (talk) 21:24, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

The "voice type" field in the musical artist infobox template is intended for classical vocalists. This position is supported by Voice type and Voice classification in non-classical music. In the rare instance when a reliable source exists to support a voice type for a non-classical vocalist (i.e. Maria Carey) the source must be provided for inclusion in the infobox. I will revert the entry in this field for this page, if you disagree please comment at the talk page for the musical artist infobox. J04n(talk page) 16:24, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

The Video Ozzy does not want you to watch!

Body: Current mood: disgusted Category: Music

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Xu5Z7XpJ54

notwithstanding the inappropriate nature, for this place, of this appeal or rant about Lee Kerslake, the above link no longer works because "The YouTube account associated with the video has been terminated". Draw your own conclusions.68.18.196.168 (talk) 06:18, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

Lee Kerslake, former drummer of Uriah Heep and contributor to Ozzy, amongst others, is in financial hardship. He has auctioned off his memorabilia to pay off bills and to keep his estate from foreclosure.

His due royalties from Ozzy had never been accredited to him. He helped to put Ozzy back on the charts.

What ever happen to the Brotherhood of Fellow Musicians?

I hope everyone who watches and hears this video, will boycott everything Ozzy, till he gives just acknowledgement and royalties to Lee Kerslake. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.173.170.36 (talk) 23:16, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

What is this mess doing here in a semi-scholarly discussion. Who wrote this mess about Lee Kerslake? Horrid!Gingermint (talk) 21:34, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

probably Lee Kerslake —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.24.207.77 (talk) 19:38, 13 August 2010 (UTC)

just to wrap this up..... the court case related to this matter was appealed to, and rejected by, a Federal Appeals Court in 2003. So this rant is at best ill advised and at least incorrect.68.18.196.168 (talk) 06:24, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

'Solo tours' section

Unless someone has a reasonable objection I'm going to remove the solo tours section. It is completely unsourced and in my opinion fancruft. J04n(talk page) 15:03, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

Regarding Gus G, Tommy Clueftos and Blizzcon

The press release clearly says: "Due to Zakk Wylde's current touring committments with Black Label Society And Mike Bordin's ongoing reunion tour with Faith No More, Ozzy will be playing with guitarist, Gus G, and drummer, Tommy Clueftos for this special performance", which implies that it's a one-off thing. So please stop adding them to the current line up. Erzsébet Báthory_{(talk|contr.)} 16:30, 22 August 2009 (UTC)

Something seriously weird must've gone on with my edit. All I endeavoured to do was put the phrase 'will play at blizzcon' in to past tense once he walked off stage. Bleeter (talk) 03:40, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

Nevermind, misread someone's edit summary *sigh* long weekend Bleeter (talk) 03:42, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

Gus G. is the new guitar player for Ozzy he needs to be added, I always fuck up the pages so I won't edit it but it needs to be added.

Please watch this youtube video. Gus G. posted it himself on Myspace. From what I can see, he is replacing Zakk Wylde. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8OONCtU3N_0

Questionable source?

See the passage that I removed here. It was tagged with {{Verify credibility}} questioning WP:NPOV of the source from this site. I believe if the validity of the source is in question the passage must be removed per WP:BLP, which I did. However, the source says that it received the information from a direct quote by Ozzy published in Guitar Legends, No. 37, p. 34. If in fact it is from Guitar Legends I would say that it should be returned (and sourced to the original article), but I don't have the magazine. Does anyone have a copy for verification? Comments? J04n(talk page) 02:18, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

Old photo

I have a picture and article from a newspaper of Ozzy with short hair during what I think is the Diary of a Madman tour from..82, would this be of use in the article, should I bother scanning it? Revrant (talk) 01:23, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

I think that would be a copyrighted image, but thanks anyway. Erzsébet Báthory_{(talk|contr.)} 01:38, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

Unacceptably, Obviously biased site as source

I have a tiny interest in Osbourne because in the sixties I once sat alongside him on a 717 Green Line bus from Stevenage -where he really grew up- on a journey into central London ( Marble Arch) He was a tall impressive figure sitting completely motionless for nearly an hour and I always wondered who he could be.Only forty years later casually watching a late night TV programme did this same baby faced long haired figure appear.On the bus he wore a jean suit and his long hair was its original blonde. However I would ask one simple question.His image -as we are constantly told -is one of a life of very heavy drinking and drug use --yet at 62 he still looks as slim trim and healthy as a young man!!!-Something is not quite right there!-still,true or not, its an image that has made him 110 million pounds (not mentioned in the article)!!

First of all. Let me tell you that Ozzy is not a bad man. People think he worships the devvil BUT that is not true. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.208.134.176 (talk) 02:28, 8 May 2010 (UTC)

The "Ozzy Rest of the Story" reference is hilariously biased, it is obviously a very fanatically Christian site that constantly calls Ozzy a "sadist" and "pervert rocker" because he apparently offends them.

It is pointless to have such a biased reference in the article, and I will remove it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.232.219.14 (talk) 02:28, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

Well, many people, infact a majority during the appearance of such rock bands, were offended, the same way many were offended by rappers, and you suggest we shouldn't mention that part of the story? Is that bias, or part of the reality? --94.193.135.142 (talk) 13:30, 14 October 2009 (UTC)

We shouldn't mention it if it didn't happen. Yeah, I think that's a good suggestion. Now, if it did happen, then we should quote from a source that wasn't written in crayon. Gingermint (talk) 21:31, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

Animal Abuse Section

Is there a source for the assertion that Osbourne abuses animals? I'm aware of the allegations in the section, but I missed refrences to these as abuse, are there some in the sources? Unless the sources seem relatively aligned as to this point, it doesn't seem clear that we can necceasrily call it abuse. It would seem to be that it would be better to note the sources that call it abuse and leave it at that. It doesn't seem that by the prevailing morals in many cultures that biting a bat's head off or a dove's head off is necessarily animal abuse, and I don't think wikipedia should be taking a position as to this matter.--Δζ (talk) 04:07, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

• You make a good point; what do you think the heading should be changed to? J04n(talk page) 10:42, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

I would think something like Animal Cruelty Controversies or similar would be fine. Maybe "Substance Abuse and Animal Cruelty Accusations" Or "... Controversies" would be a bit better. I'm not opposed to calling it abuse if the sources say this, I just think the judgment should be attributed to the sources rather than wikipedia itself. I'm not trying to be too pedantic here, but it does seem that his acts, while shocking, aren't really any different than accepted slaughtering practices in many cultures and countries, including those in Europe and North America which are perhaps most relevant to these claims. Regards--Δζ (talk) 08:42, 22 November 2009 (UTC)

I agree with you, I'm going to split into two sections: 'Substance abuse' and 'Controversies with animals'. J04n(talk page) 12:11, 22 November 2009 (UTC)

Done; feel free to tweak the wording there is nothing about drugs so I took the word out. J04n(talk page) 00:51, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

Controversies with animals? Hey, Ozzy did say he's looking for a new title for his next album :D --Snograt ^{talk here} 13:49, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

Later solo career and Black Sabbath reunion

that section doesn't deal with the black sabbath reunion at all. either rename it or add the part about the sabbath reunion, i'd suggest the latter.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 134.93.65.136 (talk • contribs) 00:03, January 7, 2010

Done Muttdog (talk) 00:20, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

Consensus needed for status of Under Cover

Consensus should be reached as to whether or not Under Cover is considered Ozzy's ninth studio album. There has been some recent editing back and forth over the issue at Under Cover, Black Rain (Ozzy Osbourne album), Template:Ozzy Osbourne, and possibly other pages. In looking for similar albums I came across Acid Eaters, which is listed with the Ramones' studio albums, and Garage Inc. which is not listed with Metallica's. Unless there is a ruling somewhere that I am not aware of I would support counting it in his list of studio albums. Comments? J04n(talk page) 16:35, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

I wouldn't put it, as it is just a complete album of covers. Muttdog (talk) 20:20, 21 February 2010 (UTC)

Hmm, can I cite Bowie's Pin Ups here? --Snograt ^{talk here} 13:58, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

There doesn't seem to be a lot of interest in forming a consensus over here and frankly the edit warring has subsided so I'm not all that concerned either. Is there a lot of back and forth editing for Pin Ups? If so you should probably post at Talk:David Bowie. I think it's better to treat these as case-by-case, good luck. J04n(talk page) 14:49, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

Overhaul

Just to let everyone know, I cleaned up the sections to make them easier to navigate and changed some false/outdated information. Muttdog (talk) 00:24, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the effort! Dintonight (talk) 22:59, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

Language useage in the intro

In the intro it says He rose to prominence as lead vocalist of pioneering British heavy metal band Black Sabbath, and eventually achieved a multi-platinum solo career between the early 1980s and mid 1990s which revolutionized the heavy metal genre. Shouldn't it instead say He rose to prominence as lead vocalist of the pioneering British heavy metal band Black Sabbath, and eventually achieved a multi-platinum solo career between the early 1980s and mid 1990s which revolutionized the heavy metal genre ? Dintonight (talk) 12:09, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

Wrong info

"The film these fellows were waiting to see was the Mario Bava-directed Black Sabbath. After reading an occult book he borrowed from Osbourne, Butler had a dream of a dark figure at the end of his bed. Afterwards, Butler told Osbourne about the dream and Osbourne wrote the lyrics to "Black Sabbath", one of their first songs in a darker vein."

Ozzy's autobiography disagrees with both these claims, and even points out Geezer wrote the lyrics to the song "Black Sabbath".

Muttdog (talk) 17:30, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

Do you have a page number reference from his autobiography? If so, the disagreement should be added to the article. Dintonight (talk) 19:00, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

Ozzy's new song with Slash : "Crucify the Dead"

"Crucify the Dead" was premiered on amazon.com on March 23, 2010: http://www.amazon.com/Slash/e/B000APVSRE/ref=ac_dpt_sa_link —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.145.47.217 (talk) 07:18, 24 March 2010 (UTC)

Earlier Band

It has been stated in Ozzy's autobiography, I Am Ozzy, that he was also in a band with Geezer Butler before joining up with Tony and Bill.

Small update needed

"President Bush noted Osbourne's presence by joking..." the word former should be placed before president for obvious reasons, I would have done this small task myself but the protection thing is on.

As Bush was President at the time, I think it's OK as it is; otherwise we would have to go round all such articles adding "former", and I doubt that's a good idea, even if feasible. Rodhull andemu 15:37, 25 April 2010 (UTC)

Semiprotection bollocks

If this page weren't semiprotected I would have been able to disambiguate Slash -> Slash (musician). Wikipedia, the encyclopedia that only a few can edit. Yes, I know I can use such-and-such template to attract attention here. Yes, I know I can make an account. Yes, BLP blah blah blah bullshit, forget it, I want Wikipedia back. 64.20.10.210 (talk) 18:41, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

 Done Thanks for pointing this out. Rodhull andemu 18:49, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

History, Science

Horizon, Sphere, runner ups to be announced. Please do not attempt to adjust mexican radio. Black Sabbath history, A Haunting. Courts, and Ghost Trackers, should heed slight warning. Trick or Treat, Riding the Bullet </\> Was nice to represent pmrc. BBv775.250.64.4 (talk) 19:13, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

Edit request from 98.240.161.165, 28 May 2010

{{editsemiprotected}} Ozzy osbourne's official website has declared the release date for 'Scream' June 22nd, 2010. Not June 15th, 2010. That was the original date but was changed. Thought you should do that for peaple who need the truth.

98.240.161.165 (talk) 00:40, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. —fetch · comms 01:01, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

Did you forget something?

I read the article and thought it was well written. There is however one little problem, it doesn't talk about when he bit the head off a bat. It should have somewhere that he did that. I mean that is information that I learned from a book that isn't on this. Worms25 (talk) 22:43, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

It's there, see the section Incidents involving animals. J04n(talk page) 22:53, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

Reporter

There should be special book describing all the "crazy" things people have done, like shoot shoot shoot the gum... and other ideas from "Satan laughing, spreads His wings", because sometimes others forget it's a song. War Pigs. Now, there are over abundance of wild pigs in Texas. There is no basement at the Alamo!75.200.75.162 (talk) 12:35, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

Career spanning...

The intro states his career spans four decades, but as he has been active in the 1960s, 70s, 80s, 90s, 00s and this year doesn't that mean his career spans across six decades? Does the intro mean the duration of his career or the number of decades it spans (the latter usually being what people mean when they talk about spanning decades)...

Cheers :0) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Warlockuk (talk • contribs) 08:31, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

? Somebody needs to look at all these edits

Just a note, in the last 48hrs. this well established page has had 127 edits Diff's, I don't think that much has changed in two days. Not to mention not one discussion. Mlpearc powwow 19:31, 12 July 2010 (UTC)

"Ozzy"

We really should call him by his surname rather than his nickname, as a serious encyclopedia. --John (talk) 01:09, 18 July 2010 (UTC)

I agree. Even though I personally refer to him as Ozzy, I'm pretty sure "Osbourne" would be more appropriate. AmeriBrit (talk) 07:17, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

Legacy

We need a Legacy section on this one. NandO ^ta_lk! 04:03, 4 December 2010 (UTC)

No rest for the wicked

There isn't any mention of "No Rest for The Wicked." I'm not fit to right anything about it, but I figured I'd mention. EDIT: Sorry. There is a small mention of it, but not much. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.241.232.48 (talk) 02:42, 18 December 2010 (UTC)

picture with Vince Neil

the one under Drug and alcohol abuse with the caption Ozzy Osbourne (right) with Vince Neil (of Mötley Crüe) in 1984 I believe its fake http://up.wiki.x.io/wikipedia/commons/b/b5/Ozzy-motley.jpg —Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.99.42.127 (talk) 03:06, 10 February 2011 (UTC)

TV Commercials

There should be some mention of the hilarious and often self-depreciating commercials Ozbourne has been doing for companies like Samsung. They are pertinent because of the obvious references to Osbourne's memory loss and somewhat "drugged" mannerisms. "What IS a Beiber?" —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.116.205.162 (talk) 22:41, 11 February 2011 (UTC)

I agree. Although I wouldn't say that his mannerismssomewhat "drugged" as much as they might be playing on his stereotypical "elsewhere" image. The charm is in the bluntness and his clear Black Country accent.68.18.196.168 (talk) 06:13, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

Untitled

Please note that I reinstated the page that was almost completely wiped out by Diannaa

Tattoos?

Should the information about the tattoo's be in the lede? Not important and not related to the surrounding info. Should probably be moved to Personal Life. SSBDelphiki (talk) 04:36, 17 June 2011 (UTC)

Circus Fans

The Wizard is an electronic masterpiece. There is no way to tap into the electricity. It only provokes one, to greater things. Thanks OZ </\> Author Unknown75.204.117.177 (talk) 03:26, 9 September 2011 (UTC)

Name

What does "Ozzy" mean anyway? Any connections with Australia or something? Article doesn't make it clear... thanks. 113.197.211.230 (talk) 23:41, 18 October 2011 (UTC)

It's a nickname based on his last name, just like someone named Smith might be nicknamed "Smitty".Freshfighter9^talk 02:24, 20 January 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 8 February 2012

ADD LiTA FORD.. CLOSE MY EYES FOREVER!!!!

The following line: A documentary about his life and career, God Bless Ozzy Osbourne, premiered in April 2011 at the Tribeca Film Festival and will be released on DVD in November 2011.

needs to be changed to: A documentary about his life and career, God Bless Ozzy Osbourne, premiered in April 2011 at the Tribeca Film Festival and was released on DVD in November 2011.

A1ananth (talk) 22:14, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made.--Ankit Maity ^{Talk|Contribs} 11:38, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

Well the change has been made by someone else now. @Ankit Maity

You clearly didn't read the change that was requested. You know where you can shove that little template you used, right? 110.32.42.182 (talk) 06:24, 17 April 2012 (UTC)

Haha to the above comment Thatemooverthere (Talk) 02:57, 8 April 2013 (UTC)

Remove album

Speak of the Devil (1982) is not a studio album, need to be removed from the list or add the other live albuns too (i prefer the first option, the live albuns will appear at "Main article: Ozzy Osbourne discography") — Preceding unsigned comment added by Luisgdh (talk • contribs) 20:52, 14 August 2012 (UTC)

Say what?

"General love from teachers at Prince Albert Road Junior School, and Birchfield Road Secondary Modern School in Perry Barr made his childhood difficult for him." This statement makes absolutely no sense to me. Please elaborate, source it, or I will remove. Garth of the Forest (talk) 05:28, 19 January 2013 (UTC)

associated acts

how are these associated? it just looks like a random selection of bands. what is the process by which acts must qualify to be associated with Ozzy? perhaps the personal preference of the editor who put them there? how is this section appropriate? 31.52.25.69 (talk) 13:19, 24 September 2013 (UTC)

Right you are. ChakaKong^{Let's talk about it} 16:20, 24 September 2013 (UTC)

Fire

Is the fire in Osbourne's home worthy of adding it to his article?

I would say that it is not unless it had a noteworthy impact on him. Thatemooverthere (Talk) 02:54, 8 April 2013 (UTC)

wanna be cool? add brad wilks!!!!!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.170.136.74 (talk) 22:15, 18 October 2013 (UTC)

Infobox Image

The image in the infobox should be a more recent picture of Ozzy, so as to portray a more accurate depiction of him as he is today. Thatemooverthere (Talk) 02:52, 8 April 2013 (UTC)

Agreed. You'reNotMyBrain (talk) 22:53, 13 December 2013 (UTC)

Was (Not Was) - Shake Your Head (Let's Go to Bed)

"1982 Osbourne appeared as lead vocalist on the Was (Not Was) pop dance track "Shake Your Head (Let's Go to Bed)". Madonna performed backing vocals". This is incorrect. According to this http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=6195310 Madonna's vocals were never used.95.45.113.179 (talk) 21:10, 22 January 2015 (UTC)