Talk:Operation Keymer

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Blnguyen (a Vietnamese) has taken to delete things from this article. Wonder whether he is involved in the enterprising Vietnamese culture of running cannabis factories, and causing tens of thousands of dollars of damage to other people's properties? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.161.63.5 (talk) 10:07, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

Vietnamese crimes

Operation Keymer unearthed the scale of vietnamese crimes and the vietnamese criminal network in the United Kingdom.

Vietnamese like blnguyen here, is trying to cover up this information because of nationalism as he is a vietnamese. Perhaps he is a part of this vietnamese criminal network? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.161.63.5 (talk) 10:13, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

OPeration Pentameter

This sentence was removed, as this was not relevant to Operation Keymer.--Tayray (talk) 14:52, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

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WikiProjects of interest reinstated

I have reinstated several allegedly "less relevant" WikiProjects that were removed by User:SnowFire-Alt. Others have considered this article is of interest to these WikiProjects and they fall within the scope of those projects. How relevant an article is to a particular WikiProject not the inclusion/exclusion criteria, project scope and interest in the content is. The degree of relevancy is indicated by the "importance" attribute. @SnowFire-Alt: and others, if you do not think this article is of interest to a WikiProject, please discuss this before removing the WikiProject banner concerned. - Cameron Dewe (talk) 02:25, 4 September 2022 (UTC)

@Cameron Dewe: As discussed elsewhere, no, "importance" is not the same thing. If someone added Wikiproject France to this article, it should be removed as irrelevant, not reduced to "Low" importance. This article is rather stubby, but currently there's no hint whatsoever of organised crime involvement, but maybe you know something I don't. Was organised crime involved (again, per the definition at organized crime, so not simply any crime)? The only thing the article currently covers is the Law Enforcement operation on the police side, hence it seeming properly a part of that. If you plan to expand the article to cover these aspects, go ahead and keep the restored Wikiprojects, but otherwise, there is not a strong link. SnowFire (talk) 03:18, 4 September 2022 (UTC)

@SnowFire: Actually, I had to seriously question why this article falls within the scope of WikiProject Law Enforcement and came to the conclusion that it was a planned Police initiated operation in response to existing crime. Primarily, this article is crime related and the fact that twelve people were arrested in nine raids and that it talks about cannabis-growing factories indicates this was something of a industrial scale, and not just one person growing a few plants for their own personal use in their back-garden. The number of plants seized, weight of drugs and street value also implies this was organized crime and a money-making venture; not personal use. Lastly, if someone did add Wikiproject France to this article, I would expect to see evidence of a French connection in the article that met the scope of Wikiproject France, such as the drugs were destined for sale in France or were being grown for a French related criminal enterprise. - Cameron Dewe (talk) 04:14, 4 September 2022 (UTC)

Well, that's why I picked Wikiproject France: as an example of an obviously incorrect addition for this topic. Obviously there's no problem for topics that genuinely involve France.

This one is too small-bore to fight over, but again, "organised crime" is not "any crime;" there's a larger implication there. It depends on if this was actually a proper organisation or just a few local criminals; when people talk about organised crime in ordinary speech, they generally mean operations larger than just a dozen people. Local drug-dealers selling pot for money are too small. But currently this article is incredibly vague on the crime elements at all, so who knows. SnowFire (talk) 04:31, 4 September 2022 (UTC)