Talk:New Zealand at the 2020 Summer Olympics
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Postponement
[edit]Now that the games have been postponed (what took them so long?), the question is how we should react to this. Many of the qualifications have been sorted, either for individuals or as quota spots. It is inevitable that there will be changes to this. Some of the individuals may retire. Some (all?) of the qualifications may be restarted. Many of the qualifications had not been finalised. I suggest that we should take an encyclopedic approach to this and not wipe the slate clean if things change, but state where things were at on 25 March 2020, and any subsequent changes to the situation are additional information instead of the only information. Makes sense? Any thoughts? Schwede66 19:00, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
Unexplained content removal
[edit]I have problems with disciplines being removed and we don’t even get the courtesy of an edit summary. This has got to stop. I shall revert further edits of that nature. I do not know why this content is being removed. Was it mistakenly added in the first instance? If so, an edit summary must explain that. Is it because the code has decided to pull out? If so, prose and a reference should be added, and only the competition table should go. Schwede66 18:48, 11 May 2021 (UTC)
Rowing section
[edit]We have an article List of New Zealand rowers at the Summer Olympics and it shares results results tables with the respective summer Olympics articles. By now, there are 29 templates that get transcluded. With this edit, the results templates for the Tokyo Olympics got removed again. I'm absolutely fine with having a discussion around how this should be done. Whatever it is that we agree on, it will obviously have to work across the pages where these results tables get used. What I do have a problem with is that the templates show the rowers, and the version that got restored was void of this information. Not good enough, I'm afraid. As I say, I'm open to suggestions for moving forward. Schwede66 02:04, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
- Its a bit hard to explain, but have you seen how the match sections of team sports are put onto this article? The same thing can happen with the rowing. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 02:06, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
- No, I hadn't. But I've just had a look now. I find the description on Help:Labeled section transclusion rather hard to follow (I had previously looked at that a year or so back) but just following the example looks much more straightforward. One of the things that had me worried is it has "section" in its name. But it does not appear that it needs to be the whole content of a heading, just a "section of text". I'll give that a shot. As the article with the higher views would be this one, would you agree that the original content should be here, with the list article transcluding the content? Schwede66 02:47, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
- I am okay with templates, but this Olympic cycle it is being "phased out" if that makes sense. I think either or is fine, perhaps its easier to keep it one page, so perhaps having the tables should be on the List of New Zealand rowers at the Summer Olympics page. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 15:06, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
- Ok, that's what I've done; the content is now at List of New Zealand rowers at the Summer Olympics and transcluded here. I shall go forth and delete the templates. Thanks for prompting me to finally look into this section transclusion thing. Schwede66 21:28, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
- I am okay with templates, but this Olympic cycle it is being "phased out" if that makes sense. I think either or is fine, perhaps its easier to keep it one page, so perhaps having the tables should be on the List of New Zealand rowers at the Summer Olympics page. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 15:06, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
- No, I hadn't. But I've just had a look now. I find the description on Help:Labeled section transclusion rather hard to follow (I had previously looked at that a year or so back) but just following the example looks much more straightforward. One of the things that had me worried is it has "section" in its name. But it does not appear that it needs to be the whole content of a heading, just a "section of text". I'll give that a shot. As the article with the higher views would be this one, would you agree that the original content should be here, with the list article transcluding the content? Schwede66 02:47, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
Different issue but still on rowing: Phoebe Spoors and Kirstyn Goodger didn't get to row but ended up being reserves. Therefore, we should count 30 rowers (14 men and 16 women) and not 32. Unless there's something that I'm not aware of. Schwede66 10:12, 1 August 2021 (UTC)