Talk:Nazi boycott of Jewish businesses

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Question Statement about Initial Boycott by Jews

This article states that the motivation behind the Jewish-organized boycott against Germany was to "further cripple the German economy." Is this true? Was the boycott not a reprisal against Nazi policies?

Anyway, this needs to be clarified, I think.--Jrm2007 (talk) 17:32, 26 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

121225 http://www.goodnewsaboutgod.com/studies/political/jewsdeclarewar/jewsdeclarewar.jpg http://www.jewsagainstzionism.com/zionism/jewishwar.cfm http://en.wiki.x.io/wiki/Jewish_boycott_of_German_goods Hitlers announced boycott of domestic jewish businesses was AFTER international jewry instituted a boycott against Germany to try and crush its economy. Bhug (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 21:20, 25 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The initial call to boycott Germany was not in response to any policy of the German government, but to the upsurge in violence against Jews by Nazi thugs as the Nazi Party gained power within, but not control of, the German government. In that sense it was a collective punishment against Germans for the actions of Nazi thugs, that the Nazi Party was able to capitalize on.

75.111.20.66 (talk) 05:34, 17 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Citations

You cant have an entire article without cites, it doesnt warrant this space. If they are listed somewhere else then put these 2 sections there and/or make this a redirect to that section.

Without cites it is OR and POVLihaas (talk) 07:36, 2 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It isn't unsourced, and unsourced is not the same as OR or POV anyway. The source is the link at the bottom, which is where the entire text is (legitimately) copied from. By all means improve it using other sources. Fences&Windows 00:23, 3 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

au contraire, there is not a single source listed below. I dont what you are seeing as a source? an external link?

if someone wants to cite what he copied to show that it didnt come out of ones own imagination, then by all means do so. Otherwise there is no verifiability, nor can it be an article on its own.Lihaas (talk) 12:59, 5 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Look, the source is given in the article. I'm amazed I have to spell it out, but here it is: http://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/article.php?ModuleId=10005678. The article is a legitimate copy of that source per an OTRS ticket - so by definition it is sourced! Stop Wikilawyering. If you want to do something useful, improve the article with sources. Fences&Windows 19:51, 7 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Firstly, you can be WP:Civil in you conversation.

More importantly, there were 3 tags and you only answered for one.Lihaas (talk) 06:39, 9 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

as usual, no explanation as to why

Why does this article, like so many others, refuse to delve into the question of why the Jews became such a target of Nazi Germany if they'd done nothing wrong? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 150.226.95.18 (talk) 18:16, 28 February 2012 (UTC) Jews were responsible for the crippling reparations required of Germany after the first world war. They always want to act like they did nothing wrong, but that is ridiculous. There is a reason why Jews are never welcome anywhere they go.65.39.13.194 (talk) 16:54, 25 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe, but the Germans stopped paying at some point and had been paying less then some other nations 5/27

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BAn RfC: Which descriptor, if any, can be added in front of Southern Poverty Law Center when referenced in other articles? has been posted at the Southern Poverty Law Center talk page. Your participation is welcomed. – MrX 17:04, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Reference to Stormtroopers

The reference to Stormtroopers in the photos seems rather dramatic and inaccurate. German police or soldiers might be more accurate.

See Wiki page: http://en.wiki.x.io/wiki/Stormtrooper#German_Stormtroopers

JazzyJ DT (talk) 09:36, 20 May 2013 (UTC)^[1][reply]

I fixed these. Zezen (talk) 22:42, 29 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ http://en.wiki.x.io/wiki/Stormtrooper#German_Stormtroopers

Numerical context

The article states that 50,000 or 50% of Berlin businesses had Jewish owners. What % of the population of Berlin was Jewish? That would give that fact the proper context.For instance, if 95% of Berlin was Jewish, the boycott would be annoying, but resistible. If 50% of Berlin was Jewish, the boycott would represent a stark division of Berlin along economic lines and make a retaliatory embargo an option. If 5% of Berliners were Jewish, the dynamic changes; if a large fraction of the 95% honored the boycott, it would doom a Jewish business. Where to get that data?74.193.221.158 (talk) 04:37, 24 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Reaction to a Jewish "declaration of war"

I have move this from the lead :

The initial boycott was a reaction to a "declaration of war" against Germany by Jewish organizations world-wide immediately after Hitler became Chancellor.^[1]

One should not make say to Berel Lang what he didn't say. In his book (chapter 8) he explain what was the perception by the Nazis of a alleged Jewish agression or attack against them. But he never says it was true. He emphasizes at the contrary that this was amplified by the Nazi propaganda.
Berel's work opens new doors to understand the mechanisms that lead to the genocide of the Jews but it cannot be used to state there would have been a "declaration of war" to which the Germans would have reacted; all at the contrary.
Pluto2012 (talk) 08:26, 25 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ Berel Lang, Philosophical Witnessing: The Holocaust as Presence, p.132

It's interesting, the UNITED STATES HOLOCAUST MUSEUM, while not referencing the Jewish Boycott of Germany directly, does say... "The boycott was both a reprisal and an act of revenge against Gruelpropaganda (atrocity stories) that German and foreign Jews, assisted by foreign journalists, were allegedly circulating in the international press to damage Nazi Germany's reputation." barking (talk) 00:46, 6 August 2019 (UTC) Cite error: A <ref> tag is missing the closing </ref> (see the help page).</ref>[reply]

Kosher slaughter as boycott?

What does this has to do with boycotting?

Jewish ritual slaughter was banned in Poland in 1936 (in Germany it was banned from 1930).[11]

In 2000s onwards most EU countries have had similar bans on kosher slaughter, Poland y compris at least officially, not because they hate Jews, but because they love animals. It is not and may not be due to any "boycott". More NPOV sources needed. Zezen (talk) 08:18, 27 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

[1] ttp://en.wiki.x.io/wiki/Stormtrooper#German_Stormtroopers

[Lang_p132-2] Berel Lang, Philosophical Witnessing: The Holocaust as Presence, p.132

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