Talk:Naki Sumo Crying Baby Festival

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Did you know... that Japan's Naki Sumo Crying Baby Festival has showdowns between infants in the arms of sumo wrestlers?

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DYK Nomination

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The result was: promoted by SL93 (talk) 18:31, 7 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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A man wears a mask to make a baby cry at the 2018 festival

... that Japan's Naki Sumo Crying Baby Festival (pictured) begins with a showdown between infants in the arms of sumo wrestlers?Nakizumo Festival, held throughout Japan, sumo wrestlers hold babies and make weird noises and faces in an attempt to make infants cry. The baby who cries first (or, if two babies start crying at the same time, the one who cries the loudest) is the victor.[1]

Comment: This is my 4th nomination. The article includes a couple other images. Happy to swap the image I've included in the nomination for a different one if it's better suited to DYK.

Created by Brinacor (talk). Self-nominated at 01:51, 18 June 2020 (UTC).[reply]

The article actually doesn't meet the new article criterion, as it was nominated on June 18 which is outside the seven-day requirement (which means the article should have been nominated no later than June 15). It however appears to meet the 5x expansion criterion as it was expanded five-fold since the 8th (when the article was moved to mainspace). Otherwise no close paraphrasing was found and the other article requirements are met. I'm a bit confused as to which is the exact sentence that the hook fact: is it Two babies at a time compete in short matches, often while held in the arms of professional or student sumo wrestlers? If it's this sentence, then the footnote for referencing needs to be duplicated here. There could also be additional hook ideas here, like how sometimes parents look for places in Japan for the babies to compete in due to how popular the practice is, or the reason for its existence (it bringing good luck?) As this is only the nominator's fourth DYK no QPQ is required. Narutolovehinata5 ^tccsdnew 14:10, 18 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The nominator hasn't been edited since the day of the nomination and issues remain unaddressed. Unless Brinacor returns to editing soon or another editor decides to adopt this and take care of the referencing and hook ideas, this may have to be closed as stale. Narutolovehinata5 ^tccsdnew 11:55, 7 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the review and helpful suggestions, @Narutolovehinata5:. I'll make the changes and suggest some alternative hooks as soon as possible. Thanks, Brinacor (talk) 01:18, 8 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. Just leave a note when you're done. Narutolovehinata5 ^tccsdnew 03:26, 8 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Added an ALT 1 --Thats Just Great (talk) 06:00, 26 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

ALT1 ... that the Japanese Naki Sumo Crying Baby Festival (pictured) dates back 400 years? "The 400-year-old ritual takes place all over Japan, but is most famously performed by the student sumos of Tokyo’s Sensoji Buddhist temple." [2]

Pinging @Narutolovehinata5: Yoninah (talk) 14:35, 29 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Honestly it sounds a little bland compared to ALT0 or even any of the other potential facts in the article (such as the aforementioned "parents go around Japan just to get a chance" thing). Narutolovehinata5 ^tccsdnew 14:56, 29 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

OK I added a link to support the ALT0 "Nakizumo Festival, held throughout Japan, sumo wrestlers hold babies and make weird noises and faces in an attempt to make infants cry. The baby who cries first (or, if two babies start crying at the same time, the one who cries the loudest) is the victor.[3]" -- Thats Just Great (talk) 16:44, 29 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Brinacor: Please return to the nomination so it can proceed. @Thats Just Great: If Brinacor doesn't return, will you be willing to adopt the nomination? Narutolovehinata5 ^tccsdnew 23:47, 2 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Sure. What needs to be done? Seems both ALT0 and ALT1 are ready to go. What else needs to be done?-- Thats Just Great (talk) 01:02, 3 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

It looks better other than perhaps additional hook proposals could be given (I gave some suggestions earlier in the discussion). ALT1 should probably be struck per my comments above. Narutolovehinata5 ^tccsdnew 02:07, 3 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I struck ALT1. Needs a second look -- Thats Just Great (talk) 02:20, 3 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

ALT0 has always been a great hook. I added a cropped image to go with it. ALT0 hook ref verified and cited inline. Rest of review per Narutolovehinata5. ALT0 good to go. Yoninah (talk) 17:22, 3 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]