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Removal of the Hadith section

@Photomenal can you give me a reason for removing that sahih hadith from the article that's better than your current WP:IDONTLIKEIT argument? 𐩣𐩫𐩧𐩨 Abo Yemen (𓃵) 15:38, 22 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

You restoring the image that @PLMandarynka changed for a good reason needs to be explained too 𐩣𐩫𐩧𐩨 Abo Yemen (𓃵) 15:40, 22 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I already explained that in my edits. A photo of some building in Diriyah is in no way, shape or form more representative of Najd than the largest mountain range of Najd that covers much of Najd.

As for the hadith it was never included previously, it has no relevance to this page and there is no consensus of Najd (highland in Arabic) being the Najd in KSA that is referred to in the Hadith. Photomenal (talk) 19:30, 22 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

did you read the binbaz source that I provided?? 𐩣𐩫𐩧𐩨 Abo Yemen (𓃵) 06:36, 23 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Also my edits included adding citations to the article (the "In popular culture" section). How is that remotely disruptive?? 𐩣𐩫𐩧𐩨 Abo Yemen (𓃵) 07:33, 23 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Your edits in Saudi Arabian related topics are clearly biased and disruptive. You are removing sourced and factual content as well as relevant photos.

The ahadith has no relevance on the topic of Najd unless as previously stated you have an agenda. Moreover there is no consensus on the Najd in question being the Najd located in modern-day KSA.

You are most likely http://en.wiki.x.io/wiki/User:SharabSalam this formerly banned user. Your edits are incredibly similar and he, just like you, had a long history of making disruptive edits related to KSA topics. I recall a similar user, who also got banned, doing the exact same thing. There have been at least 3-4 such users (most likely the same person) and now you make very similar edits. The coincidence is very peculiar.

Also what is the agenda behind removing photos that showcase the rich ancient history of Najd (Al-Magar culture) and sourced material?

You talk about consensus and using the talk page but you were the one that started the disruptive edits without prior consultation.

You cannot just remove large chunks of factual material because you don't like it given your clear agenda at play here. Photomenal (talk) 11:32, 23 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Your edits in Saudi Arabian related topics are clearly biased and disruptive. You are removing sourced and factual content as well as relevant photos.

The ahadith has no relevance on the topic of Najd unless as previously stated you have an agenda. Moreover there is no consensus on the Najd in question being the Najd located in modern-day KSA.
Show me the "sourced and factual content" that I've removed. YOU have removed the citations that I've added and the hadith that is sourced and confirmed by Ibn Baz, Saudi's most respected Islamic scholar

You are most likely http://en.wiki.x.io/wiki/User:SharabSalam this formerly banned user. Your edits are incredibly similar and he, just like you, had a long history of making disruptive edits related to KSA topics. I recall a similar user, who also got banned, doing the exact same thing. There have been at least 3-4 such users (most likely the same person) and now you make very similar edits. The coincidence is very peculiar.
Go ahead and open an SPI case against me. I'm waiting. They are only banned from saudi-related content and they have retired from editing Wikipedia. And if someone checks my email logs they'll see that I've sent him an email asking him if he's coming back but got no reply.

Also what is the agenda behind removing photos that showcase the rich ancient history of Najd (Al-Magar culture) and sourced material?
Do you mean me formatting the gallery to be incorporated into the main text? I don't even know the agenda that I have

You talk about consensus and using the talk page but you were the one that started the disruptive edits without prior consultation.
Well yeah because you're reverting me because of no other reason than you don't like it. And guess where are we discussing this rn? The discussion that YOU should've started.

You cannot just remove large chunks of factual material because you don't like it given your clear agenda at play here.
If by factual you mean paragraphs of text that have ^{[citation needed]} tags then you must be joking. Throwing out accusations of me having an agenda isn't going to work here 𐩣𐩫𐩧𐩨 Abo Yemen (𓃵) 11:49, 23 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Baseless claim. Most respected scholar according to who? You? There is no consensus on the ahadith being the Najd (KSA) in question. This is very clear even in the Wikipedia thread on that ahadith. Of course you somehow choose to omit this fact given your clear bias and agenda here.

So you admit that you have talked with/written to the individual in question (what a coincidence of all the 1000's of users on Wikipedia and 3 years after his last edit) and it gets even more strange given how similar both of your edit history is. Some coincidence.

No removing text, photos without prior consultation, even if factual content, and doing it without any consensus or prior consultation. I have just looked at your most recent edit history and this type of behaviour is recurrent.

The ahadith was never included for the reasons that I stated but you insisted in including it due to your bias. Similar with the main photo of the article which had been in place for a very long time, is more neutral and more representative than 1 building in Diriyah. I already gave the reasons for that. The same photo of Diriyah is used elsewhere in the article.

That is not how it works. Judging by that logic you should remove every single text which has no citations which would mean at least 1/4 of all Arab-related topics on Wikipedia.

As for agenda, I can only judge your disruptive edits in KSA-related topics and all becomes clear. Photomenal (talk) 12:03, 23 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

There is no consensus on the ahadith being the Najd (KSA) in question.
God forbid that there is another najd that we don't know of

So you admit that you have talked with/written to the individual in question (what a coincidence of all the 1000's of users on Wikipedia and 3 years after his last edit) and it gets even more strange given how similar both of your edit history is. Some coincidence.
Instead of throwing out false accusations, open an SPI case on me and request a CU instead of throwing out false accusations. I have no problems with that. SharabSalam is from the Shar'ab as-Salam district in Taiz and I am from Mukalla. We are not the same guy and me being interested in Yemen-related topics doesn't mean that I'm him.

WP:SPI
Go there 👆 𐩣𐩫𐩧𐩨 Abo Yemen (𓃵) 12:08, 23 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

BTW you are most likely a previously banned sockpuppet of a similar user who made very similar disruptive edits and who clearly had/has an anti-KSA agenda. It is very clear. I will find out which of the previous sockpuppets your new user belongs to. No doubt in my mind here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Photomenal (talk • contribs) 19:37, 22 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]