Talk:Mister International (Philippines)

Real Mister International article and The legitimate organization ownership, President, CEO and COO

This article is unsourced to confirm that MI 2023 in Philippines is a real legitimate organization for MIO, The legitimate organization pageant for MI 2023 is organized by Mr. Pradit in Thailand only, that they’re announced on the Mister International Official page (Verified Page) from 2022 and 2023.

and unsourced about their positions in MIO as Ownership, President, CEO, COO or Director and also Headquarter in Philippines. don’t have any official source or announcement from Mister International legitimate organization Singapore or Thailand or Mr. Alan Sim who’re a founder, or from the court that confirmed about their positions for MI Organization.

The real Mister International article is Mister International (Thailand) that editor changed the original article’s name from Mister International.

Sources about real Ownership, President, CEO, COO and Headquarter:

Statement From Mister International Organization (about President, CEO, and COO), Oct. 31, 2022

Official Announcement (about the Ownership), Sep. 25, 2023

Official Announcement from President of Mister International Organization, Sep. 26, 2023 PradaSaetiew (talk) 05:04, 15 December 2024 (UTC)

This article focuses solely on the Mister International (Philippines)-based organization and not on the Mister International (Thailand)-based one. Please note the distinction. The article was created based on verified media outlets, which have acknowledged the existence of this organization amidst an organizational dispute. Additionally, user Hariboneagle927 contributed to clarifying the differences between the two entities. 🌼𝓡𝓬 𝓡𝓪𝓶𝔃🍁 (talk) 08:58, 15 December 2024 (UTC)

As they are the national directors of both Philippines and Thailand at that time before Sim's passing and that Mister International 2022 edition was the last undisputed edition of Mster International which held in the Philippines by Atty. Manuel Deldio.🌼𝓡𝓬 𝓡𝓪𝓶𝔃🍁 (talk) 09:13, 15 December 2024 (UTC)

In terms of Philippines based MIO statement regarding this as quote

"Mister International founded in 2006, Mister International Organization was Singapore-based owned and organized by the former president and late founder, Alan Sim.

In 2022, Mister Alan Sim appointed Attorney Manuel Deldio from the Philippines as the vice president of the organization. An office in Manila was established for brand and talent development.

Unfortunately, Alan Sim, passed away at the age of 50 just a week before the 14th Edition of the pageant to be held in Manila, Philippines.

Due to untimely demised of the president, the vice-president succeeded the presidency and legally assumed the position and took charge of the organization.

The organization, under Attorney Manuel Deldio, introduced a tradition of more empowering and more value-centered distinctively handsome men to inspire the next generation to serve and be active part of the community.

The headquarters is now located in the Philippines under the presidency of Attorney Manuel Deldio." 🌼𝓡𝓬 𝓡𝓪𝓶𝔃🍁 (talk) 09:03, 15 December 2024 (UTC)

this is just a story and still unsourced, so you just can say but you and him don’t have any official source or legitimate document source from The Original Mister International (Singapore) or Mr. Alan Sim or from The Court to support this Manuel’s stories. PradaSaetiew (talk) 09:37, 15 December 2024 (UTC)

And as per WP:RSPFACEBOOK, Facebook is Generally unreliable: [...] Outside exceptional circumstances, the source should normally not be used, and it should never be used for information. Even if the source provided passes most of the relevant checks per WP:SOCIALMEDIA, it fails 5. The Wikipedia article is not based primarily on such sources. 🌼𝓡𝓬 𝓡𝓪𝓶𝔃🍁 (talk) 10:08, 15 December 2024 (UTC)

And its not based on my subjective insights but it was based on neutral point of view thus backed by Verified News Media Outlets. 🌼𝓡𝓬 𝓡𝓪𝓶𝔃🍁 (talk) 10:11, 15 December 2024 (UTC)

You can also checked that this issue raised and tackled in Mister International (Thailand) talkpage 🌼𝓡𝓬 𝓡𝓪𝓶𝔃🍁 (talk) 09:04, 15 December 2024 (UTC)

The wording on this article needs a bit tweaking. We cannot in wikivoice says that this is the legitimate edition (in fact existing cites says that the Thailand faction has more "recognition" and polished organization) but a Philippine faction does exist and this article is about that group. This is reflected by the fact that we had the past winners prior to the crisis on the Thailand page rather than here. It should be obvious by the article title. So its incorrect to change the headquarters in the infobox to Bangkok for example.Hariboneagle927 (talk) 10:08, 15 December 2024 (UTC)

Indeed I agreed with this the title itself as to avoid confusion that's why there's certain label per title and its not a claims of one view but based on the references that talks the existence of the article. 🌼𝓡𝓬 𝓡𝓪𝓶𝔃🍁 (talk) 10:13, 15 December 2024 (UTC)