Talk:Mexican Coke

Mexican?

The same drink, flavor, bottle and all, is sold in the Central American nations. Should the article be named Mexican Coke? Why not change it to Latin American coke or something similar? I understand that only the Mexican version is sold in the US because of its relative closeness but the cokes share the same characteristics and Wikipedia is an encyclopedia for the world not just the USA. Chupu (talk) 19:48, 10 January 2012 (UTC)

It's a WP:COMMONNAME issue. In the US, this type of Coke is referred to almost exclusively as "Mexican Coke." As I understand it, Coke in the rest of the English-speaking world uses basically the same formula found in Mexican Coke, so the phrase wouldn't make sense in other countries—in that sense, this is a US-specific topic. Furthermore, all Mexican Coke sold in the US, as far as I know, actually comes from Mexico, so the name is accurate. --BDD (talk) 22:02, 8 March 2013 (UTC)

Current sweetener status

I had a bottle of Mexican coke at a restaurant recently. There was a pasted on ingredient label that said "product of Mexico" and listed ingredients as "sugar and/or high fructose corn syrup". Is HFCS-free Mexican Coke a thing of the past now?Plantdrew (talk) 15:28, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

I think it may be. I just grabbed one out of my fridge and noticed that it tasted different. Sure enough, the label states that it was made with high fructose corn syrup. I put a pic on the main page. —Some Person (talk) 22:25, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

Um, that is not real mexican coke. Coca-Cola does not contain sodium benzoate, or citric acid. Not legit coke. You may very well be getting ripped off.

Anyway, mexican coke with sugar is no thing of the past, and I doubt it ever will be, because mexico using HFCS is not logical. I have one time seen a bottle from mexico which looked slightly different then what I have been buying for years, and said on the label, "high fructose corn syrup and/or sugar". Other than that, every other bottle I have ever seen looks the same, and say's sugar.

Also, legit Coca-Cola has to have the following ingredients, and the following ingredients only:

Carbonated Water, Sugar(High Fructose Corn Syrup in the states) Caramel Color, Phosphoric acid, Natural Flavors, Kola Nut(listed as simply Caffeine)

I hate to tell you, but what you put a picture of is not Coca-Cola, it is a "Cola-Flavored Soft Drink", according to the label itself. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.98.250.155 (talk) 10:00, 8 December 2011 (UTC)

I know the sticker says "Cola Flavored Soft Drink", but the printed label underneath clearly indicates that it is a Coca-Cola, complete with the trademark logo and "© 2008 The Coca-Cola Company". I bought several of these at a local Fiesta Mart, one of the few places I know of that carries the half-liter bottles. As usual, it was in their international section, and although I noticed that the label had a different design than usual, I didn't think to check the ingredients until after I tasted it. —Some Person (talk) 05:25, 14 December 2011 (UTC)

According to a study in Obesity, Mexican coke uses HFCS. http://healthland.time.com/2010/10/28/study-hey-hipsters-mexican-coke-might-be-a-myth/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.145.139.244 (talk) 08:05, 22 March 2013

I think the conclusions drawn from the above referenced study are misleading. For one thing, the levels fructose to glucose are quite different (7.2 to 3.9 for US Coke versus 5.4 to 5.0 for the EUM Coke). Furthermore, the MexiCoke sugar levels are consistent with a solution of sucrose dissolved into an acidic environment, such as cola base or fruit juice. That is, sugar (which is a Disaccharide) added to acidic liquid will naturally hydrolyze into fructose and glucose. See Sucrose. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.132.6.122 (talk) 03:25, 3 July 2013

Purchased in Colorado in May 2013 at a City Market store the bottle is 355ml, 12 fl oz is on the paper label that has nothing under it. On it the ingredient list reads Carbonated Water, Sugar, Caramel Color, Phosphoric Acid, Natural Flavors, Caffeine. Then it repeats the ingredients in Spanish, starting w/Agua Cabonatada, Acucar, Color Caramelo, Acido Fosforico, Sabores Naturales, Caeina. Bottled under the Authority of the Coca-Cola Company Atlanta, GA. By Bedbidas Mundiales, S.A. DE C.V. Mexicalis, BC CP21376 Product of Mexico. Along w/toll free #'s for English & Spanish as well as refund information by state for the glass bottle. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Frederiksen123 (talk • contribs) 17:23, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

It actually depends on who bottles it. Mexican Coke for sale in Mexico may use either cane sugar or HFCS (with some bottlers moving more towards HFCS), but Coca-Cola says that they only export the cane sugar variant to the US. Doesn't mean that's the only kind that you can find in the US, but that's the kind Coke officially brings over here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.244.228.117 (talk) 04:31, 16 November 2013 (UTC)

Removing the 2nd picture

The 2nd picture needs to be removed. That is obviously not a picture of mexican Coca-Cola, hell, the label is covering the name! I honestly can' figure out how to remove it, but please remove it whoever reads this, a picture of a Coke rip off is not relevant to this article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.98.250.155 (talk) 10:06, 8 December 2011 (UTC)

To my knowledge, it is not a Coke ripoff. See discussion above. —Some Person (talk) 05:28, 14 December 2011 (UTC)

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Regional bias and lead improvement

I've made an attempt to clean up the regional bias issue in the lead and improve the article to save if from its proposed deletion. I wasn't sure how to work in the glass bottle fact. There should probably be a concise description in the lead paragraph to the effect of "It is distinguished from Coca-Cola produced in the US in that it is usually sweetened with cane sugar rather than high fructose corn syrup, and is sold in a glass bottle." Thoughts? Ibadibam (talk) 20:04, 8 April 2013 (UTC)

U.S. availability section

Do we really need a laundry list of every single store that sells it? It might be worth discussing the history of availability, if we can find sources, but the current vendors are numerous enough that it's probably not worth listing them all. Ibadibam (talk) 19:54, 22 April 2013 (UTC)

I've gone ahead and removed it. It only seems to be getting longer, start to run into WP:NOTYELLOW and offering diminishing value to the reader. Ibadibam (talk) 21:07, 26 March 2014 (UTC)

Fructose levels "similar"

That isn't what the study says. Quote: For Coca-Cola, the fructose-to-glucose ratio varied from 58:42 to 65:35 for the three United States samples. The Mexican Coca-Cola sample had a fructose-to-glucose ratio of 52:48. To simplify, the average for the US Coke was a ratio of 1.62, while for the Mexican Coke it is 1.08, which means that in the US Coke the ratio is fifty percent higher, which can hardly be called "similar". Ham Pastrami (talk) 15:17, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

The real issue concluded from the study seems to be that Mexican Coke is not made with cane sugar, but rather a less concentrated form of HFCS, which in either case corroborates that formulations with excess fructose has a negative impact on taste. Ham Pastrami (talk) 15:25, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

I've tweaked the wording to try to better reflect that source (eight years later, I know). I'm seeing another source claiming that the lack of detected sucrose is because it depolymerises spontaneously under acidic condition: https://www.acsh.org/news/2016/04/08/why-cokes-cane-sugar-soda-may-seem-just-like-the-high-fructose-kind 109.255.211.6 (talk) 02:41, 6 March 2021 (UTC)

"MexiCoke"

I restored "MexiCoke" because it's a redirect and should be retained in the lead, if possible. That said, the source I found is recent and may well have gotten this term from Wikipedia in the first place, as is this other one. Other sources like this and this may be better evidence but are not reliable. Suggestions? Ibadibam (talk) 02:08, 5 November 2013 (UTC)

Glass bottle factoid wrong

Coke in Mexico comes in several presentations: glass, plastic and can. The source used on this page is wrong, as it states that coke in Mexico is sold exclusively in glass bottles, wich is wrong, as shown in this images from Mexican coke distributors.

http://www.corporacionrica.com.mx/wp-content/themes/Rica/img/productos/modalcocar.jpg

https://s3-us-west-1.amazonaws.com/img.coca-colafemsa.com/assets/images/es/carreras/1-2-3.jpg

Can someone fix this issue? Soparamens (talk) 00:36, 27 March 2018 (UTC)

This is part of the issue that has vexed contributors to this article...the topic is not "Coke made in Mexico" but "Coke made in Mexico and sold in the United States". In that context, the glass bottle is apparently ubiquitous. It is a very thin slice of the notability of a global product (Coca-Cola as a whole), which lends itself to all manner of bias and inaccuracy. Ibadibam (talk) 17:08, 27 March 2018 (UTC)

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Mexican root beer

Mexican root beer, also advertised as containing sugar, has recently been available here (Prince George, British Columbia, Canada). It seems that it isn't just Coke.Bill (talk) 06:48, 2 February 2023 (UTC)