Talk:Matthew 1:9

This article was nominated for deletion on 12 March 2006. The result of the discussion was Redirect to Matthew 1.

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This article has survived a Vote for Deletion. For more details see Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Matthew 1:verses. --Allen3 ^talk July 9, 2005 13:53 (UTC)

Clean-up

What clean-up is required? Rich Farmbrough 22:10 12 March 2006 (UTC).

Um, it doesn't (at time of tagging) include any citations of scholars, and doesn't explain all of the various Christian and Non-Christian perspectives on the verse in question. I'm not saying that the article is bad, but its nowhere near a full article if it cites one American Protestant. A J Hay 04:52, 13 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Citation is a fair comment, I'm not sure what perspectives are on offer (the Zorastrian viewpoint :) , but then I'm not a religious scholar. Rich Farmbrough 12:27 13 March 2006 (UTC)

Missing kings

I'm utterly confused by this passage. Uzziah and Azariah are the same king. Joash was, according to 1 Chronicles 3 (and every other Old Testament source) the son of Ahaziah, not the son of Uzziah. There is no contradiction. I'm going to remove this material claiming a contradiction. john k 01:06, 20 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Fairly simple

Chronicles
3:10 
And Solomon's son 
was Rehoboam, 
Abia his son, 
Asa his son,
Jehoshaphat his son, 
3:11 
Joram his son, 
Ahaziah his son,      <------ Point a
Joash his son, 
3:12 
Amaziah his son, 
Azariah his son, 
Jotham his son,       <------ Point b
3:13 
Ahaz his son, 
Hezekiah his son, 
Manasseh his son, 
3:14 
Amon his son, 
Josiah his son.

Matthew
1:7
And Solomon begat
Roboam; and Roboam 
begat Abia; and Abia 
begat Asa; 1:8 And Asa begat
Josaphat; and Josaphat 
 
begat Joram; and Joram 
begat Ozias; 1:9 And Ozias   <------ Point a




begat Joatham; and Joatham         <------ Point b 

begat Achaz; and Achaz 
begat Ezekias; 1:10 And Ezekias 
begat Manasses; and Manasses 

begat Amon; and Amon
begat Josias;

Rich Farmbrough 13:34 5 June 2006 (UTC).

Restoring this for now

Despite the notes above, an AfD indication to redirect is not binding, decisions to merge or redirect are editorial decisions and are always reversable. If it were otherwise, I'd need to go to WP:DRV to contest the first AfD, and that would be ridiculous.

As it stands, this article includes verifiable NPOV information on this verse. We don't blank good information in wikipedia. If you think the information is not so, then please give reasons and then remove it. If you think we should lose this information, then tell me why. If you don't think that there should be an article on this verse, and that the information is best organised in a different form, then you are, of course, free to merge this article with Matthew 1 - I personally will not oppose that. --Doc ^ask? 20:59, 30 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Please explain what part of this article is not covered in Matthew 1 or Genealogy of Jesus and I will gladly merge it. The AFD may not be binding, but because you disagree with it is not a valid reason. kotepho 21:18, 30 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I don't disagree with this page pointing to Matthew 1, as long as no information is lost. However, most of the information here that directly relates to this verse, its meaning and its textual Greek variants, is not Matthew 1. There is quite a bit of specialist work to be done effecting a good merge. --Doc ^ask? 23:08, 30 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It seems like minutia to me. kotepho 23:28, 30 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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