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Coomemts on the original and authoritative sources ?

@ Efward321 : before e edit warring take a look at the sources here [1] as suggested by Dave (above).

@ Historybuff1930 : you never discussed the above sources but continued to complain. These sources demonstrates that Gotha lists wrong titles and that all the conjectures based thereon are false. You never commented nor discussed. - Fabritius (talk) 06:03, 19 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Before a discussion can be resumed - a message to Fabritius

Fabritius - I would ask you kindly to please take note of the following important points:

1) There is now a CONSENSUS on this page against your edits, whether you like it or not. When Edward321 reverts your edits, he is not edit warring because his version has a consensus behind it. Your version does not

2) You are working against the spirit of Wikipedia and breaking the rules by edit warring an article with a consensus. You were asked by an administrator (OhNoitsJamie!) on the 15/05/10 to 'Please continue use the talk pages before making controversial and/or major changes to articles. You have yet to achieve any sort of consensus on this page for the edits you are proposing' (see this post on your talk page). You have completely ignored this and have changed the article twice since he posted. He has now reversed the main article to the original/consensus version (see this edit), posted an edit warring notice on your talk page (see this warning regarding edit warring), and urged you in his main article edit summary to 'establish a consensus before changing this' (his latest revert of the main article). I hope you will take heed of these warnings and will not start edit warring the article for a third time

3) You cannot seriously complain that I have not as yet discussed your sources since the pages were uploaded last Friday (even though I have discussed the validity of these exact sources at length, including this post above). Despite the fact that I am travelling this week with limited internet access (see the edit summary of this post on Monday), you have clearly shown that you are not interested in a discussion. If you were, you would not have reverted the article (starting a new edit war, as you do not have a consensus for your edits) a mere 36 minutes after your 14/05/10 post on this page (you posted here 15.11, and unilaterally reverted the article at 15.47 the same day). You cannot expect others to engage with you when you break the rules in this way, including ignoring a direct warning from an administrator

4) There are times when I do not know if you are reading the posts here. Above you wrote, in response to my last post, 'Didi you look at the documents? Probably not if you're edit warring again'. This was at 21.52 on the 18/05/10. How can I be edit warring the article when I have not edited the main article at all since it was first protected a month ago on the 20/04/10 (look at the edit history)? This just doesn't make sense and suggests you are not reading the material properly, which given how much time it has taken to put together, does not exactly invite a discussion

We can resume a discussion on this page when you demonstrate that you do not intend to edit war the article against a consensus. Please do this by clearly stating that you will not make any further changes to the main article unless you have a clear consensus (this is an agreement with the other editors involved) on this talk page beforehand for your changes.

I look forward to your response. Hopefully, we can then continue the discussion but I would appreciate this assurance before dedicating any more time to this.

Kind regards, Historybuff1930 (talk) 21:02, 20 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Legendary origins - Second paragraph

The second paragraph of the Legendary Origins section (The Massimo family is also said to have provided two popes to the Catholic Church, both saints - Pope Anastasius I (died 401), who denounced the Origenist heresy, and Pope Paschal I (died 824), who resisted the Frankish Kings and was involved in one of the earliest attempts to Christianise Scandinavia.) is not supported at all by the reference provided.

Redstar766 (talk) 02:20, 8 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Coat of arms

Hi, I stumbled on the coat of arms displayed in the article, which features the St Edward's Crown.

As the centrepiece of the Crown Jewels of the United Kingdom, this crown cannot be claimed/featured in the arms of a family from Italy. Heraldic depiction:http://up.wiki.x.io/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a1/Crown_of_Saint_Edward_%28Heraldry%29.svg/800px-Crown_of_Saint_Edward_%28Heraldry%29.svg.png

In the interest of accuracy, I trust this will be adjusted. Pp22oo (talk) 00:23, 13 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Possible world domination

There are many conspiracy theories that suggest the Massimos control the world. Worthy of being mentioned in the article? CalledEnergy (talk) 00:26, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]