Talk:Mary Welsh Hemingway

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Cleanup tag

I've tagged it clean up, it needs some checking and bringing into line with the Manual of Style. However, I do not believe it is a speedy delete on the basis of non-notability. Hiding talk 11:55, 9 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Dates?

She was born in 1908, at age 32 married. That would be in 1940. Then she did a whole bunch of stuff, ending up in London, which included "assignments in Paris during the years preceding World War II."

Then "After the fall of France in 1940, Welsh returned to London to cover the events of the War"?

Even if the dates and the age are correct, the way it's written it looks like she needed a time machine to get things to line up.

This source (http://www.evesmag.com/hemingway.htm) says she married Monks, her second husband, in 1938, shortly after arriving in London. So the "at age 32 married" the first husband seems more than suspect.

Has anyone read her biography? Rjhenn (talk) 04:40, 16 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

"Across the river..."

I took out the last phrase, which says she was buried "across the river and into the trees" from a location. This is a wink-wink, look how clever I am reference to one of Hemingway's books.Closedthursday (talk) 17:58, 20 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Closedthursday: Your "wink-wink" remark notwithstanding, the prospect of he and Mary one day being buried "across the river and into the trees" from their house in Ketchum, per his stated wishes, was something Hemingway told others he contemplated while writing his 1950 novel of the same name, and intimated to friends in Sun Valley as one source of his title (the phrase also said to have been the last words of Stonewall Jackson, another soldier like his Colonel Cantwell of the book -- perhaps Hemingway is the one deserving of your "wink-wink, look how clever I am" comment.) Have you read the Hemingway biographies? For that matter, have you ever read Across the River and into the Trees? Might make you less wink-wink about all this. I shall, however, not contest your taking the phrase out. Life is too short (cf. aforesaid book) and some of us don't have nearly as much time on our hands as others for such parsing. (p.s. - If you really want to get serious about Wikipedia editing, you should register, as you will be taken much more seriously. It's simple: just click on either of the red links above, and follow the instructions that come up. Or, even simpler, just click here: User:Closedthursday.) Professor JR (talk) 19:25, 20 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Uncited Quote Beneath "Marriage to Ernest Hemingway"

I often use Wikipedia to find ideas for papers, and I noticed the quote, "I wanted him to be the master..." etc. After scrounging around the internet for a bit, though, I haven't found any verifiable mention of this! Is there a source we could provide to prove this is real, or is this quote fabricated? AllAmericanFrog (talk) 20:47, 2 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I found a source! The Virginia Quarterly Review has this article: https://www.vqronline.org/essay/memoirs-hemingway-growth-legend.

It claims this was said to the journalist Oriana Fallaci, not written. I will fix this later tonight if nobody else does. AllAmericanFrog (talk) 21:26, 2 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]