Talk:Mad at Disney

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Review: June 9, 2022. (Reviewed version).

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Reviewer: MarioSoulTruthFan (talk · contribs) 08:59, 8 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Infobox

Needs alt
- There was already alt text but I made it more specific. Sebbirrrr (talk) 11:31, 9 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Replace hlist with bullet points per Template:Infobox song

Done

Lead

Add that the song was included on Ilese's extended play Unsponsored Content (2022).
It was released on July 24, 2020 through HomeMade and TenThousand Projects for digital download and streaming →It was released on July 24, 2020, for digital download and streaming by HomeMade and TenThousand Projects
concepted → created, inspired
The track describes → Lyrically, the track describes...
Add instrumentation part of the Composition
- I wasn't quite sure how to add this one. Sebbirrrr (talk) 11:31, 9 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Don't add MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 12:38, 9 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Consequently, the track entered the charts of different territories → Consequently, the track entered the charts in various countries.
"Mad at Disney" also received gold certifications in Canada, Poland and the United States → "Mad at Disney" was certified gold by the Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA) and Music Canada (MC) + wikiliks
- Added, but shouldn't the Polish certification be kept in the lead too? Sebbirrrr (talk) 11:31, 9 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Sure you can add it, I missed the question MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 13:21, 9 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
A music video was uploaded onto Ilese's YouTube channel in October 2020, which makes reference to various Disney films. → On October 15, 2020, a music video directed by Phillip Lopez was released. It makes reference to various Disney films.

Done

Background and composition

Split this into two section one is Background and the other is Composition
- I called the second one "Composition and release" since it mentions the radio release dates. Sebbirrrr (talk) 11:31, 9 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Good job, but take a look at the overall MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 12:38, 9 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
"Mad at Disney" was written in August 2019, during a writing session between Ilese and the song's songwriters and producers, Møller and Jason Hahs. → "Mad at Disney" was written in August 2019, during a writing session between Ilese, Møller and Jason Hahs. The latter two also produced the song.
It was also sent to contemporary hit radio stations in Italy and the United States on October 6, 2020. → It was sent for radio airplay in Italy and contemporary hit radio stations in the United States, on October 6, 2020.
Wikilink extended play
- Already linked in the Background section. Sebbirrrr (talk) 11:31, 9 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Done

Reception and commercial performance

in April 2021 → remove
In Canada, the song reached number 82 and received a gold certification in the country on December 9, 2020 → In Canada, the song reached number 82 and was also certified gold by Music Canada (MC) + wikilink
Mad at Disney" was also certified gold in Poland → Despite not entering the Polish charts, "Mad at Disney" was certified gold by the Polish Society of the Phonographic Industry(ZPAV) + wikilink

Done

Music video

channel on October 15, 2020.[25] It was directed by Clare Gillen.[26] → channel on October 15, 2020, and it was directed by Clare Gillen.[25][26]
Phillip Lopez was the video director, Clare Gillen was the creative director
See more on references

Done

Personnel

Use spaced en dash, –

Done

Track listing

Remove, it is only one

Done

Charts

Use Template:Single chart for the US and Global 200
- For some weird reason, she doesn't have her own chart history page. If you go here https://www.billboard.com/artist/salem-ilese/chart-history/ you'll be redirected. Sebbirrrr (talk) 11:31, 9 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I wasn't redirected, but I checked the sources and it is fine. Sometimes Billboard doesn't have artists pages, it is fine. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 12:37, 9 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Done

Release history

Please see Wikipedia:Singles criteria for Italy and fix it accordingly

Done

Certifications

This should be above the release history section

Done

References

I have doubts regarding the reliability of "CheatSheet", tried to look it up on wiki reliable sources, but not much came up. Only one discussion nobody answered Showbiz Cheat Sheet.
- There was a discussion here Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard/Archive_281#Omigosh,_are_Cheatsheet.com_and_WeGotThisCovered.com_reliable? and the consensus was that CheatSheet relies on rumors and speculation. In this case however, I believe it's okay to use because there isn't any speculation about Ilese herself (the author also credits the rolling stone interview). Sebbirrrr (talk) 11:31, 9 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
That is an even better discussion to prove my point. "Many of the articles are summaries of other sources with additional commentary; for these types of articles, it would be better to cite the original sources if they are reliable", using quotes from other interviews doesn't make statements and opinions reliable. But the opinion is regarding the song, not the artist itself and you have some of that stuff already covered, what you don't have either find a replacement or remove the information. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 12:34, 9 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- Removed cheatsheet. Sebbirrrr (talk) 13:13, 9 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
La Rata is an unreliable source, from what I could gather the music video was directed by Phillip Lopez, while Clare Gillen was the creative director. Equate at least in an interview with the singer, seems an okay magazine with mostly interviews
- Removed the La Rata source and replaced it with the Equate one. Sebbirrrr (talk) 11:31, 9 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Source check: 2-7, 10, 11, 13, 22, 25 and 28
Source 5 needs to be formatted properly, see release history
- Hope I formatted it correctly. Sebbirrrr (talk) 11:31, 9 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Done

Overall

Let me know once the issue are addressed. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 10:41, 9 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- @MarioSoulTruthFan: Hi, I've addressed everything and left some comments as well. Sebbirrrr (talk) 11:31, 9 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  Add the mixing and mastering engineers on the prose as well. Either retitle Background section to "Background and production" but you also have to add the songwriters and producers or re-title it to "Background and release" , moving the release dates there and add the engineers on the composition section. Maybe the latter option? Live performances of the song? MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 12:27, 9 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  - @MarioSoulTruthFan: Did the latter. Also, you haven't replied to my question about the Polish certification in the lead. She uploaded 3 live performances on her channel 1 2 3 but they weren't performed anywhere notable so I don't think it's worth mentioning them. Sebbirrrr (talk) 13:13, 9 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    Those are more self promotion than going on shows to perform. The closes I found was at radio station KISS FM. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 13:28, 9 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    @MarioSoulTruthFan: I've added the Polish certification in the lead and the radio station performance under the Promotion section. Thanks for the link to the performance, I must've missed it! Sebbirrrr (talk) 13:37, 9 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    I made some small changes in the article, see if you are ok with them. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 13:57, 9 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    @MarioSoulTruthFan: Yeah that's perfectly fine. Sebbirrrr (talk) 14:05, 9 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]